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Cain apologizes for comments on border fence "It was a joke," Cain said emphatically. "I apologize if I offended anyone. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa."

Rick Perry apologizes for ‘heartless’ comment on immigration question Rick Perry said Wednesday that he was sorry for saying at last week's Republican debate that those opposed to providing an in-state tuition break to the children of illegal immigrants “did not have a heart.”

“I was probably a bit over-passionate by using that word and it was inappropriate,” Perry said in a interview with Newsmax. “In Texas in 2001 we had 181 members of the legislature — only four voted against this piece of legislation — because it wasn’t about immigration it was about education.”

We can't build a fence from Texas to California but we can build, not one but many, interstate highways from coast to coast!

Securing our border is more than just stopping illegal aliens. It is a matter of national security and public safety. And 40% of the 12 to 20 million illegals who are in this country came here legally and overstayed their visas. A fence or physical barrier is a force multiplier. Illegal alliens cost us $113 billion a year and that doesn’t include the impact of drugs and crime.

Shutting off the job magnet is absolutely essential, but there is more involved when you realize that our border with Mexico is the longest one in the world between a Third World country and a developed one. There is enormous pressure for people to get out of a corrupt Third World cesspool and go to the US regardless of the risk and hardship. And we now have enough immigrants in this country, 40 million legal and illegal, that can harbor and support illegals.

The two main threats to our national security posed by immigration relate to terrorism and drugs. First, tens of thousands of persons from countries that support international terrorism have come across our southern border undetected since 9/11.

Testifying before Congress in March 2006, FBI Director Robert Mueller said that his agency busted a smuggling ring organized by the terrorist group Hezbollah that had operatives cross the Mexican border to carry out possible terrorist attacks inside the U.S. “This was an occasion in which Hezbollah operatives were assisting others with some association with Hezbollah in coming to the United States,” Mueller told a House Appropriations subcommittee during a hearing on the FBI’s budget. Hezbollah was responsible for the October 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut, which killed 243 U.S. troops. A total of 20 foreign-born terrorists were involved in 9/11, 19 of whom took part in the attack that resulted in nearly 3,000 deaths. The terrorists had entered the country on tourist or student visas. Four of them, however, had overstayed their visas and become illegal aliens and the others should not have been granted visas for various immigration control reasons.

Second, Michael Hayden, the outgoing head of the CIA stated in January 2009 that the threat of a narco state in Mexico is one of the gravest dangers to American security, on a par with a nuclear-armed Iran. An assessment by the United States Joint Forces Command, published in February 2009, concluded that the two countries most at risk of becoming failed states were Pakistan and Mexico.

The descent of Mexico into a failed narco state, marked by increased violence and brutality, which has already spilled over into the U.S., has enormous implications for immigration, legal and illegal. With over 11 million Mexican-born residents in the U.S. plus their U.S.-born relatives, there are strong familial ties to Mexico, which would attract Mexicans fleeing a disintegrating state seeking asylum and safety in the U.S. And the pressure on our porous, unsecured southern border would increase dramatically. Currently, the Border Patrol apprehends more than half a million people annually trying to enter the U.S. illegally from Mexico and hundreds of thousands more illegal aliens are successful in gaining entry. There is no way the U.S. could stop a tidal wave of Mexicans seeking asylum in this country and it would be even more difficult to remove them.

There has been a confluence of interests between drugs, illegal immigration, and terrorism. The systems for moving terrorists illegally across the border have become increasingly sophisticated, with Mexican drug kingpins now playing a major facilitating role using the same routes and methods to bring in illegal aliens and drugs. In view of the carnage that the 19 terrorists created on 9/11, the virtual certainty that our government has allowed substantial numbers of terrorists and their supporters to enter our country illegally is an outrage.

Illegal immigrants don't cross there. They make their moves along urban corridors.

So the stories of illegals dying in the desert of thirst are just lies? The lie is the above, that illegal crossing take place only in urban areas.

This entire article is just more lies from Texans who want no border security. And the nonsense about the cost of a fence is another lie. The cost of illegal aliens is year-after-year, and one year of their costs to the US would exceed the entire cost of a fence.

The one thing we should all be learning is that we cannot trust border state politicians, or businessmen or others form border states to ever secure the southern border. We'll have to have a federal government that will ignore the whining and narrow self-interests of border states and treat it as the US/Mexico border, and not as the Texas/Mexico border, etc.

We sure won't get that from Rick Perry. More of the same from him.

Moreover, it is unnecessary. The Texas-Mexico border includes many miles of desert that are either lightly populated or devoid of any human presence. Illegal immigrants don't cross there. They make their moves along urban corridors.

How can the folks who wrote this keep a straight face? The slightest awareness of border crossing patterns shows that heavy traffic over the SE Arizona border - rugged desert terrain - started after the urban CA corridor was fenced. And that technology without a fence - the failed virtual fence - did not stop it.

Fencing urban corridors in Texas will just shift traffic westward in a similar manner to what happened in the far SW. I have seen the illegals walking remote Hill Country roads in the early morning on their way to San Antonio and Austin. Having to cover a hundred-plus miles on foot across remote terrain is no barrier to them.

Oh, and the 35 foot ladder? It's hard to run away from the BP when you have a broken ankle from the 30 foot drop on the other side.

If you had a clue, CW, you wouldn't post stupid crap like this chock full of La Raza talking points and out-and-out falsehoods. Perry's critics on illegal immigration aren't going to be swayed by reheating the same BS that got Perry in trouble in the first place. Perry will have to come around convincingly on this issue to get traction, and every time a Perry shill like yourself tries to pretend otherwise, it just makes it harder to convince the skeptics that Perry is serious about this issue.

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Sorry Cain doesn’t get off that easy.

I think people should make this crazy comment a reason to NOT vote for Cain. Just to be consistant /s

Technically it would not work.

Folks, this is a sentiment more usually expressed by Texans toward new residents from out of state, but it fits:

We don’t care how you do it back home.

all you need to know about jobs and opportunity in USA...basically the better off government is...the worse off we all are..

The story of American jobs and labor is deeply intertwined with predatory Federal, state and local taxation and regulation....

South Koreans sleep soundly on their border with NORKS because of American Taxpayer dollars and the American GI.

Why can’t Texans, New Mexicans, Arizonans and Californians?....BECAUSE

Illegal immigration is THE KEY to the perpetuation of the status quo in DC......

Predatory tax and regulatory policies-actions that basically serve to perpetuate and grow governments-leave what business is left in the country seeking disposable labor.

Illegal Labor is the Feds out for preserving the status quo regarding Taxes and Regulation. Interestingly, that is WHY the Feds encourage in-state tuition etc for illegals under-the-table -their presence providing disposable labor allows Federal, State and local regulatory and tax excess in the status quo to continue

Immigration is the ultimate litmus test as to the candidates in question commitment to meaningful regulatory and tax reform. If they are wishy-washy on the subject...they have no real intent to disturb the DC status quo...no matter how big their cowboy hat and six-gun.

Real”leadership” is that which will place Flyover Country’s interest ahead of the Feds....haven’t yet seen anything meaningful anywhere from anybody to indicate that might happen. We have just one more election cycle to make that happen via rule of law. Otherwise its the end of the run for America.

The cost would be cheap compared to the costs of illegal immigration.

However, prioritizing the area’s to be interdicted would be smart. Start with the highest traffic areas first, then, as the infiltration traffic moves (and it will), build more minefields, er, fence sections in the new “high traffic” areas.

I am very strongly opposed to illegals crossing the southern borders of the USA, or any other border as that goes. I absolutely do not want any illegal drags on our economy. However. when this matter of a wall comes up I get remembrances of the infamous Berlin wall which Reagan demanded Gorbechev to tear down. In both situations I see people/humans wanting to go from some social hell-hole to a much better life. I can realize the feelings driving this behavior. There is a difference however in that in one case the people sneaking over the Berlin wall apparently had a generally welcoming society on the other side. In our situation this is not the case and I believe the immigrants do not on the whole improve the economic conditions of most citizens. The situation becomes a shoot out between opposing societal needs. My thoughts are that we should do what is necessary in a humane way sans a border wall to strongly discourage illegal traffic across the borders. For all those who do get across as illegals they should not be given any betterment of life beyond our own citizens. In addition to the extent of the amount that an illegal person/family gets USA public aid the government of that person’s/family should be billed for such amount for payment by any trade means available. Governments are responsible for the welfare of it’s citizens.

He knows the issue is more nuanced - like his support for in-state tuition for children of illegal immigrants.

First of all, that sentence doesn't really make sense, or it doesn't say what the writer probably thought it did. And "nuanced" here means what?

This looks a lot like misdirection. They aren't interested in stopping illegal immigration, so they point to ways to make illegals happier as a way of stopping the flow, as if that would do the job.

I don't know what to think of Rick Perry, but some of his supporters -- like this paper -- are downright repellent.

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Perry isn’t a mushy lib. He’s just, well, mushy.