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Call for border fence exposes lack of knowledge
Beaumont Enterprise ^ | October 18, 2011 | staff

Posted on 10/18/2011 12:04:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Minnesota Congresswomen and presidential candidate Michele Bachmann has become the latest politician to call for an impenetrable fence along the entire length of the border with Mexico. "President Obama has failed the American people by failing to secure the southern border," said Bachmann. "I will secure that border and that will be Job One."

Statements like that may get some attention, but they are not practical. Don't take our word for it; take Rick Perry's.

The Texas governor has been called a lot of things, but he's hardly a mushy liberal. Yet even this tough Texan sneers at calls for a Berlin Wall-style border fence spanning hundreds of miles from Brownsville to El Paso.

Two reasons: We can't afford it, and we don't need it.

The cost of a barrier like that would be staggering, certainly in the billions. Bachmann and others are silent about how they would pay for it.

Moreover, it is unnecessary. The Texas-Mexico border includes many miles of desert that are either lightly populated or devoid of any human presence. Illegal immigrants don't cross there. They make their moves along urban corridors.

Perry knows this because he is the governor of Texas. He knows the issue is more nuanced - like his support for in-state tuition for children of illegal immigrants.

Secure the border? Absolutely - but in an intelligent way that puts our resources where they will have the most impact.

Voters should be wary of sound bites from candidates that fire up special-interest groups but lack logic. The next president will need real ideas, not gimmicks, to solve the challenges facing this nation.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Minnesota; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; arizona; california; excuses; heartless; heartlesssong; hispandering; illegal; immigration; internationalborder; mexico; michelebachmann; minnesota; moreexcuses; newmexico; perry; perry2012; rickperry; texas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The solution is not to build a fence to keep illegals from draining our system by entitlements, the solution is stop giving entitlements to illegals. An Illegal is not Entitled. With no free money, there will be no freeloaders.

Our government is handing out entitlements because it wants the boarders overrun, precisely so you will ask them to fence you in. The Nazis always stirred up problems so that they could be given power over the “problem”.

Every illegal should spend time in a public works prison for the crime of tax evasion and the illegal use of public services. Then they should be deported with a set of papers to properly apply for citizenship. If caught illegally in the country again, they should be blacklisted from ever getting citizenship.

Illegal = UNentitled Its simple.


221 posted on 10/18/2011 1:10:55 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Hugin

A real conservative supports the rule of law. And demonizing other Reps who disagree with his in-state tuition policy as “lacking a heart” and not liking the sound of someone’s last name is the exact same tactic of the Left and amnesty supporters like McCain, Rove, and Graham who called those against amnesty as bigots, nativists, and racists.


222 posted on 10/18/2011 1:13:04 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar; Hugin
"...who called those against amnesty as bigots, nativists, and racists."

I'm offended, you left us "xenophobes" off your "list". ;^)

223 posted on 10/18/2011 1:16:44 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: TexMom7
Perry has a tougher stance on border and immigration law enforcement than any of the other candidates and that is a fact.

Fact my a$$. Here is NumbersUSA's ranking of the candidates. Perry gets a D minus.Click on his name and get the reasons why.

224 posted on 10/18/2011 1:17:00 PM PDT by kabar
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To: American in Israel
And how do you handle the estimated 2 million criminal illegal aliens, the drug smugglers, and the terrorists without some physical barriers at the border? You need a combination of measures to stop illegal aliens from entering this country, a fence being just one of them.

Every illegal should spend time in a public works prison for the crime of tax evasion and the illegal use of public services. Then they should be deported with a set of papers to properly apply for citizenship.

LOL. If you are a felon you don't gain re-entry into this country either as an immigrant or a tourist. As someone who has actually issued visas, I have no idea what you mean by a "set of papers to properly apply for citizenship." If you apply for immigration to the US, you get the applications at our embassy or consulates.

225 posted on 10/18/2011 1:25:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: FryingPan101
Does the word "Mandate" mean anything to you?

In February 2007, Perry issued an executive order mandating that Texas girls receive the HPV vaccine, which protects against some strains of the human papilloma virus, a contributing factor to some forms of cervical cancer.[59] Following the move, news outlets reported various apparent financial connections between Perry and the vaccine's manufacturer, Merck.[59][60] Merck's political action committee has contributed $28,500 since 2001 to Perry's campaigns.[61] The order was criticized by some parents and social conservatives, and a lawsuit was filed later that month.[62] In May 2007, the Texas Legislature passed a bill undoing the order; Perry did not veto the bill, saying the veto would have been overruled, but blamed lawmakers who supported the bill for the deaths of future cancer victims.[63]

I won't call you a liar, just woefully ignorant.

226 posted on 10/18/2011 1:33:09 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: FryingPan101
LOL!!! I see Sarah Palin is one of your heroes. I guess you’re one of those males......

Yep. I admire strong, accomplished women.

I can see you're another one of the jealous harpies. Most unbecoming.

227 posted on 10/18/2011 1:35:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: TexMom7
The usual Texas BS. "We're Texans, we're better than the rest of the country, we're tougher, we have bigger mouths and we're entitled to have a Texan as president."

You've given us three presidents...two who were utter failures and one who might have been had Dick Cheney not been there watching him.

228 posted on 10/18/2011 1:42:02 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: World'sGoneInsane

You sound like a Muslim defending CAIR.


229 posted on 10/18/2011 1:43:36 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: World'sGoneInsane

Yer wasting yer time responding to the kill the illegals crowd...I understand the notion to explain reality to them, but they have itchy trigger fingers...


230 posted on 10/18/2011 1:47:12 PM PDT by magritte
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To: magritte

You seem to have a spot in your heart for the invaders.


231 posted on 10/18/2011 1:49:16 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: gogogodzilla

Rephrase: Being a conservative is more than wanting to kill illegal immigrants.


232 posted on 10/18/2011 1:52:03 PM PDT by magritte
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To: buccaneer81

Why? Because I don’t want to shoot them on sight like a number of people of here do?


233 posted on 10/18/2011 1:53:52 PM PDT by magritte
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To: buccaneer81

“Yep. I admire strong, accomplished women.

I can see you’re another one of the jealous harpies. Most unbecoming.”

Sure. I get it. Glad to hear it, Buc!

You came to the wrong conclusion though, Buc. We love Sarah and have always supported her. As per my constant tagline, I had hoped for a merger of the two governors. I wasn’t looking forward to a Romney/Cain ticket. Sarah endeared herself to us even more when she came to Texas during our primary and endorsed Perry in his
re-election bid. We appreciated her. So you see, Buc, if you keep
jumping to conclusions as to why people like certain candidates, you could trip and get zapped by an electric fence.


234 posted on 10/18/2011 1:55:16 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: Will88

Just a side note. My daughter works for one of the largest recruiting firms in the country. Due to the flaws in e-verify, it takes eight weeks from application to offer. It’s as frustrating as it can be. It has nothing to do with Perry. You’re right about misuse of social security numbers though. How many did Obama’s uncle have?


235 posted on 10/18/2011 2:03:14 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: buccaneer81
You sound like a Muslim defending CAIR.

Really? You sound like a jackass, if that is how you defend YOUR position.

236 posted on 10/18/2011 2:03:45 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (Just because you say it doesn't make it true. By repeating it, just makes it propaganda.)
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To: magritte
Rephrase: Being a conservative is more than wanting to kill illegal immigrants.

Illegal "immigrants?"

That's all I need to know about your stance.

237 posted on 10/18/2011 2:05:10 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: World'sGoneInsane

I call ‘em as I see ‘em. I can’t help it if you’re too dense to recognize a front group.


238 posted on 10/18/2011 2:06:25 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: FryingPan101
Interesting how you assumed that my attraction to Palin was hormonal, rather than substantive.

And, naturally you would have been happy with a Perry/Palin ticket, with Sarah on the bottom.

239 posted on 10/18/2011 2:09:13 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: magritte

Yes, I know, but that doesn’t mean they should go unchallenged. It’s the American way :)


240 posted on 10/18/2011 2:22:26 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (Just because you say it doesn't make it true. By repeating it, just makes it propaganda.)
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