There are constant breaches of our border including shooting at our citizens and agents.
How is this not a warning of more dire things to come? Wake up.
Posted on 10/18/2011 12:04:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Minnesota Congresswomen and presidential candidate Michele Bachmann has become the latest politician to call for an impenetrable fence along the entire length of the border with Mexico. "President Obama has failed the American people by failing to secure the southern border," said Bachmann. "I will secure that border and that will be Job One."
Statements like that may get some attention, but they are not practical. Don't take our word for it; take Rick Perry's.
The Texas governor has been called a lot of things, but he's hardly a mushy liberal. Yet even this tough Texan sneers at calls for a Berlin Wall-style border fence spanning hundreds of miles from Brownsville to El Paso.
Two reasons: We can't afford it, and we don't need it.
The cost of a barrier like that would be staggering, certainly in the billions. Bachmann and others are silent about how they would pay for it.
Moreover, it is unnecessary. The Texas-Mexico border includes many miles of desert that are either lightly populated or devoid of any human presence. Illegal immigrants don't cross there. They make their moves along urban corridors.
Perry knows this because he is the governor of Texas. He knows the issue is more nuanced - like his support for in-state tuition for children of illegal immigrants.
Secure the border? Absolutely - but in an intelligent way that puts our resources where they will have the most impact.
Voters should be wary of sound bites from candidates that fire up special-interest groups but lack logic. The next president will need real ideas, not gimmicks, to solve the challenges facing this nation.
Bachmann is obviously awesome. I wonder who she should pick for her VP?
I stopped reading as soon as I saw a wall on our border compared to the Berlin wall. That is done to associate the idea of a wall on our border with all the negativity of the Berlin wall which was made by a communist dictatorship in one country to keep people in. It has no similarities to a wall on our border, and it in no way helps Perry’s cause.
Herman Cain is the guy to support unless you want Romney. Perry has done so bad he probably hurt his political career in Texas as well. The in-state tuition law will probably even be repealed now, because before this it wasn’t even know by many in Texas. The Lt. Governor of Texas has come out against it recently as well for being unfair to U.S. citizens. Perry is done for, and has nothing going for him when compared to Cain.
There are areas of the border where an electric fence would be very effective. The electrified fence would have to be the center one of three and would bring crossings to zero.
Yes people could just follow the fence to its end and then cross. That’s why at the end of the fence is where a guard tower is built. DUH
The Lt. Gov. has aspirations of higher office.
We can’t afford it? We cannot afford Atzlan.
There will come a time, when the invaders have taken over enough territory that it will become de facto another state of Mexico. We are seeing it and so helpless to stop it, because it is not politically correct.
We have been and will continue to see entire towns and then cities become the property of those whose allegiance is to Mexico. They will not assimiliate, all they have to do is squat, control the local economy and goverment and they have it made. Those towns governments will extensions of Mexican government.
We will cede that territory without a struggle.
Folks, the war on drugs costs tens of billions a year. We can afford the fence.
Hard to pin this candidate down on where he stands.
There are constant breaches of our border including shooting at our citizens and agents.
How is this not a warning of more dire things to come? Wake up.
Wanna see total denial and insanity?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2794230/posts
And they get more insane as they go in defending the illegals.
FR needs an enema soon to flush out the liberals.
Same for you. You said you were “doggedly vetting Rick Perry” a few days ago but I cannot find a post of you actually doing that. Plenty of propaganda supporting him though.
The fence is redundant where there’s a river. We have learned that the fence only works if it’s patrolled, because it only slows the invaders. Where the response to a breach of the fence is hours, the fence is useless.
The Texas Border Volunteers and Minutemen Project representatives have said that what we need here in Texas are frequent, irregular armed patrols backed up by surveillance, helicopters and planes.
http://www.texasbordervolunteers.org/home.php
http://www.minutemanproject.com/
You could contact either of these organizations and ask them about that fence and how building it along the Rio Grande would work, how long it would last without maintenance, and what would be more efficient and effective.
Your proposals infringe on private property rights more than necessary. Remember the saying that giving up liberty for security doesn’t get you either one.
I post threads with information and you can read them or not read them.
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:cincinatuswife/index?tab=articles
You’re the one who “doggedly” supports your candidate — where are your links and information?
I asked first. Where is your (exact quote by you) doggedly vetting” posts?
Conservative Aggies fight back on Perry supported education for Illegals:
www.aggieconservatives.org
I gave you the LINK to all my thread posts. Here it is again.
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:cincinatuswife/index?tab=articles
No f'ing shite, you fool.
BUILD THE DAMN FENCE AND PATROL IT.
There are HUNDREDS of counties in this country with challenging geography of ravines and valleys and rivers and yet they manage to build a road near a river bank.
If you can build a road, you can build a fence next to the road. And there can be monitored openings to pass from one side of the fence to the other.
But no, in Texas it is IMPOSSIBLE to build a damn patrol road and a fence next to the river!
We went to the moon from Houston, but apparently we can't figure out how to build a damn patrol road and fence next to a river.
A fence infringes on private property?
15-30 MILLION ILLEGALS INFRINGE ON THE SOVEREIGNTY OF 300 MILLION AMERICANS.
Spare us all the excuses. We all know what it's about.
Cheap Mexican labor, damn the consequences to the United States of America.
Many years from now, ex-presidente Rico Perry, that great caudillo, relaxing in his gated (and fenced!) country club, with all of his buddies who got rich off of using the millions of cheap illegal labor, will turn to them and say "Oops, our bad! Guess we blew that thing called constitutional limited government by importing all those future Democrat voters."
"But heck, we sure made a lot of money, didn't we?"
Perry is done no matter what you want, and people who still support him have a pointless task in trying to undo extremely unpopular facts, which means it's nothing more than waste of time. He's even hurt his political career in Texas by making all his liberal pro-illegal immigration views known to those who were in the dark before. Texas democrats who support the in-state tuition for illegal immigrants have said they are going to have to fight hard to keep the law in place now. There is going to be a lot more support against it now than there ever was before, and it won't survive. That's the only positive affect of Perry's run for president.
I don’t think your shoulders are wide enough to hold all those chips they’re carrying.
Then you should be pleased and all set to curl up and have happy dreams.
(Matthew 5:22 KJV) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
The road and the patrol is necessary with or without the fence, and along the Rio Grande, just as effective without excessive, unnecessary consequences. Go ahead and contact one of those border volunteer groups and ask them. http://www.texasbordervolunteers.org/home.php
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