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1 posted on 10/16/2011 11:25:36 AM PDT by Def Conservative
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To: Def Conservative

Commentary still proudly ignorant of the massive failings of the “Democracy Project”...


37 posted on 10/16/2011 11:54:07 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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Another good one by Tobin. Interesting that Tobin and Bill Keller actually agree with each other on the fact that Cain is unqualified.


38 posted on 10/16/2011 11:55:19 AM PDT by firebrand (Why didn't they impeach him? He's now totally out of control.)
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Bill Kristol and the crew at the Weakly Standard and the folks at Commentary are hard-core neocons who want the U.S. to continue being involved in “nation building” and police the world ... as long as it's other Americans’ children - not theirs - putting their lives on the line.

Neocons are no better than liberal Democrats.

41 posted on 10/16/2011 11:57:19 AM PDT by bwc2221
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Cain know the prime part of foreign policy, the target path of a very large missile with your name on it MFer.
42 posted on 10/16/2011 11:57:29 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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I had written Perry off after the third debate debacle. But I am sending the man $500 tomorrow. We have GOT to have adult leadership in the White House. Cain has yet to pass through political puberty.


44 posted on 10/16/2011 11:58:49 AM PDT by behzinlea
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Herman Cain may be a bit light on foreign policy but, if he becomes the candidate he will briefed by plenty of experts.

Obama has been on the job several years now and is still clueless on foreign policy and economic matters. I think Cain is a better prospect to learn, plus he is for American greatness, not apologetic about it.


47 posted on 10/16/2011 12:02:19 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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He identifies himself as a black American, not an African-American.

America first is a pretty good foreign policy.

Perhaps ignorance is bliss. HC damn sure will not be bowing to Saudi princes, Japanese emporers, and kissing the Pope’s ring.

I think it will be handshakes and straight talk with him.

A good platoon leader knows he doesn’t diddly about pushing troops and defers to his NCO’s for guidance while he is learning how to run a platoon.

I think HC is charismatic and smart enough to acknowledge that foreign policy is a weakness and will bring on sharp people to help shape his policies.


53 posted on 10/16/2011 12:07:17 PM PDT by Molon Labbie ("It's Free, Swipe Your EBT!")
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The Western Roman Empire strategy that the neocons pursued would be possible if the US is not broke and the people were prepared for imperial objectives. Look at Japan and Germany before WW2. Education to ramp up the youth, families were encouraged to have lots of kids. It took about 10 to 20 years of preparation before Japan and Germany decided to take on the world and create a new Japanese or German Empire. How did the necons prepare us for war? Calm down the anti Muslim mood, take down the pictures of the burning WTC, Muslims are no different then us, no draft or ramp up of industry for war. Consequence is Rumsfeld’s small forces were in trouble when they ran into unforseen problems once the regular Iraqi army was defeated. Neocons are too simplistic in their approach to world conquest and war. Luckily AQ was brutal and not sophisticated as Mao’s peoples war strategy. Otherwise we would be retreating out of Iraq like Saigon in 1975. Neocons think every nation is like Japan and Germany (who are real nations) and every nation wants to be an American once you introduce toilets and modern stuff. Well Iraq and Afghanistan are artificial nations with no national core and they have centuries of cultural values that are backward and cannot be eliminated with Western kindness. Like late Rome the neocons pursuit of Empire is unsustainable because the costs of conquering the farflung region is larger then the benefits derived.
Today the US needs to pursue a strategy similar to the Eastern Roman Empire after it lost Rome, limited in finances, manpower but advance in technology and to an extent economic system when compared to the surrounding barbarians. Active isolationism that uses forces and resources to keep our enemies off balance and not go out to expand the enemies list by entangling in the internal or regional affairs of other nations.


55 posted on 10/16/2011 12:11:09 PM PDT by Fee
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Cain’s answer means we might actually get a president who comes up with the right answer before acting.

Funny how total inexperience didn’t bother the Obama groupies.


58 posted on 10/16/2011 12:15:18 PM PDT by pallis
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More Romney/Perry....Obama-planted smears?


64 posted on 10/16/2011 12:20:25 PM PDT by AnalogReigns ((since reality is never digital...))
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Unless a candidate has already been a president,a vice president, a congressman on a committee specializing in foreign policy or international intelligence OR a former member of the foreign or intelligence services he WOULD BE IGNORANT of important data concerning international issues and WOULD BE STUPID AND IRRESPONSIBLE to pretend otherwise—ESPECIALLY if he has a chance to win the presidency.

A candidate running his mouth about such and such a country when he ain't in the loop makes that country nervous AND DANGEROUS at the prospect of his winning the most powerful position on earth.

68 posted on 10/16/2011 12:26:51 PM PDT by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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I would like to see that Herman Cain is doing homework nonstop to get up to speed on the issues he never had to bother with when running Godfather’s Pizza. I don’t care that he doesn’t know where Mali is, but he should be making himself an authority on the Middle East. He should know everything possible about oil/gas/energy/drilling. Drop the book tour immediately and stop smiling so much. This is a crisis.

Cain’s got a great and infectious personality. A lot of people (53%) thought the last guy did, too. I don’t want us to jump from the fire to the frying pan. I want to jump from the fire to the fire extinguisher.


70 posted on 10/16/2011 12:35:37 PM PDT by Rytas
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Cain said:

I’m not sure what you mean by neoconservative. I’m a conservative, yes. Neoconservative, labels sometimes put you in a box. I’m very conservative.

Even now, I'm not so sure what people mean by "neoconservative." What it means now isn't what it meant 10 or 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 years ago.

And nobody running for president is going to want to put themselves in a box on this: "I am a neoconservative" or "I am not a neoconservative" is the sort of thing that generates a lot of heat without shedding much light. To change the metaphor, it's painting a target on one's back with no real reason to do so.

Cain went on to say, in response to the host's pressing the question:

I’m not familiar with the neoconservative movement. I’m familiar with the conservative movement and let me define what I mean by the conservative movement. Less government. Less taxes. More individual responsibility.

I don't take that as meaning "I have never heard of the neoconservative movement" but as meaning "That's not what I came here to talk about." Most people would do the same.

This is really disappointing from Commentary. They come to a conclusion only an idiot would arrive at.

They start by calling him ignorant and end by hinting at conceit or hubris, when the ignorance and arrogance is all their own. It's especially bad since they are creating the kind of myth that people are going to repeat and spread and embellish.

71 posted on 10/16/2011 12:37:40 PM PDT by x
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Commentary must be anti-semitic since, as many here have said, use of the term neo-conservative indicates same.


77 posted on 10/16/2011 12:52:21 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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My free advice to Cain:
Create foreign policy advisory team for you, including people widely respected, get up to date so you can at least make intelligent comments in debates, and start forming Cain Foreign Policy principles.

Get john bolton on board.


79 posted on 10/16/2011 12:53:34 PM PDT by heiss (heartless)
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The talking point is forming, and it's simply this,
Nobody can qualify to be President unless you've been President.

There ya go. Obama wins by default.

82 posted on 10/16/2011 1:12:24 PM PDT by MaxMax
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Good book about Neoconservatism.

http://tinyurl.com/428gj6o


86 posted on 10/16/2011 1:46:55 PM PDT by Misterioso (The worst law is better than bureaucratic tyranny. (Ludwig von Mises)
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When pressed for answers today on Iran, Afghanistan and Iraq, the best Cain could do was to repeat his mantra that he would consult experts and then figure it out.

Well it's an honest answer. Would Perry, Romney and the rest make decisions without consulting experts in that field.

87 posted on 10/16/2011 1:47:45 PM PDT by McGruff (www.conservativepartyusa.com - Check it out)
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This statement is crap, Herman has already given some defense and foreign policy answers based on his knowledge of ballistics, remember boys and girls he started his career as a rocket scientist! Then eventually went the main street business route.

Ravenstar


88 posted on 10/16/2011 1:54:20 PM PDT by Ravenstar (Reinstitute the Constitution as the Ultimate Law of the Land)
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As COMMENTARY readers know, neoconservatism has a long and honorable history as the movement that helped mobilize the country to oppose détente and the Soviet Union as well as having played a key role in critiquing the failures of the welfare state.

Does this MORON know what a neoconservative is?

Allow me.

A neoconservative (also spelled "neo-conservative"; colloquially, neocon) in American politics is someone presented as a conservative but who actually favors big government, interventionalism, and a hostility to religion in politics and government. The word means "newly conservative," and thus formerly liberal. Many neocons had been liberals in their youth and admired President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

I certainly wouldn't call Neoconservatism as having a "proud role" in this nation's history. Big Government Progressives, they are.

90 posted on 10/16/2011 2:00:35 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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