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1 posted on 10/15/2011 8:08:56 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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My father, years ago, insisted that DNR be prominently displayed on all of his medical records.


2 posted on 10/15/2011 8:12:43 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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The orders – which record an advance decision that a patient's life should not be saved if their heart stops – are routinely being applied without the knowledge of the patient or their relatives.

Once you've made this transition, there is no logical barrier left to out and out euthanasia applied without your permission. In Holland they have a whole series of supposed checks and balances, permissions that have to be obtained before euthanasia can be applied. But in actual fact, the doctor thinks your life isn't worth living, you get the cocktail and no one knows, not you, not your family. You went in for some procedure and you don't come out.

3 posted on 10/15/2011 8:14:48 PM PDT by marron
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Kill the old people now! There is no room for the unproductive in this socialist Brave New World.


5 posted on 10/15/2011 8:19:10 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Obama’s death panel will ensure this becomes routine. Obama’s advice for the elderly, the sick and the disabled useless eaters: hurry up and die!


6 posted on 10/15/2011 8:21:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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Seriously ill old people have a duty to die and get out of the way, said former Democrat governor of Colorado Richard Lamm. He said that twenty years ago.

So if you're are "seriously" ill and ain't dead, die already!

This message brought to you by the Democrats' Obamascare

8 posted on 10/15/2011 8:34:53 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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OK - I’m going to jump into the fray here and say that in SOME cases, medical personnel may have to make the decision to institute a DNR because the patient is unable to do so and the family doesn’t want to discuss it.

My husband has been in emergency services for over 25 years and there are many people who insist that medics “Do everything!” even though the patient is clearly not going to survive.

I am NOT advocating for euthanasia but we as a country need to be willing to have the necessary discussions about our wishes for what measures we want taken or else the choices will be taken from us. Death is a part of life and denying that it is coming doesn’t actually prevent it!


9 posted on 10/15/2011 8:35:22 PM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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Everybody eventually dies. Somebody who’s 95 and their heart stops... Has died. We could everybody on a heart/lung machine and keep the cells from decaying... But they’re still dead. How old should somebody be before they’re allowed to be pronounced dead? 110? 157? How long do we keep the machines running?

You know, it is possible to be totally pro-life and still understand that people do in fact die eventually. I know it’s not popular here on FR, where people with no brain are expected to “live” for 200 years. If you define “Living” as postponing decomposition I suppose it may be possible, but I’m not sure it’s the right thing to do.


14 posted on 10/15/2011 9:31:23 PM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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20 posted on 10/16/2011 11:22:10 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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21 posted on 10/16/2011 11:35:56 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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It’s not only in Britain. I’ve read of unauthorized DNRs
several times, going back many years.


23 posted on 10/17/2011 2:19:22 AM PDT by cycjec
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