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APNewsBreak: US drops keeping troops in Iraq
Yahoo (AP) ^ | 10/15/11 | LARA JAKES and REBECCA SANTANA

Posted on 10/15/2011 5:45:45 PM PDT by DemforBush

BAGHDAD (AP) — The U.S. is abandoning plans to keep U.S. troops in Iraq past a year-end withdrawal deadline, The Associated Press has learned. The decision to pull out fully by January will effectively end more than eight years of U.S. involvement in the Iraq war, despite ongoing concerns about its security forces and the potential for instability...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afreakinqueen; daysnotweeks; illbehome4christmas; iraq; mymuslimfaith; obamabinbiden; troops
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To: Hugin

Lost? As in lost the battle? No way, Jose. Lost the media war, thanks to commie lovers like Cronkite.


21 posted on 10/15/2011 6:18:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Moorings

We should deal with Iran directly, once and for all. Anyway, if the Iraqis want us out I don’t see how we can stay. At least Obama didn’t compromise our troops legal immunity.


22 posted on 10/15/2011 6:22:46 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

But we STILL have a military presence in Japan, South Korea, and Europe 50-70 years later. No way Obama’s going to withdraw ALL of the troops. It would mean genocide for the Iraqi citizenry. He would OWN the bloodbath that would soon follow.


23 posted on 10/15/2011 6:27:03 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: DemforBush

Obama needs more troops for the Dark Continent.


24 posted on 10/15/2011 6:28:47 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama's secret: "Once you learn to fake sincerity you've got it made")
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To: Jim Robinson
Lost? As in lost the battle?

No, I know we won all the battles. Lost as in our political goals for entering the war wer not met, because our leaders fought for a draw, while the enemy fought for a win. In Iraq we have met all of our important political goals. Now the elected Iraqi government, that we put in place, wants us to leave, and will handle their own security. I don't see how we could refuse to go.

25 posted on 10/15/2011 6:28:56 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: Jim Robinson

We went to Vietnam to contain communism, and Vietnam has been communist since we left. Sounds like losing to me.

As for Iraq, it is no longer worth our time and treasure. We’ve done everything we set out to do, and its time for them to stand on their own two feet. I’m with another poster... can’t we win one and just go home for a change?


26 posted on 10/15/2011 6:32:43 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: DemforBush

Years ago...

US: We want to be out ASAP.
Iraq: Please stay as long as you can.

Today...

US: We want to have permanent base to use against Iran.
Iraq: Please leave ASAP.


27 posted on 10/15/2011 6:36:20 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: DemforBush

hussein sucks.


28 posted on 10/15/2011 6:38:44 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: DemforBush

Just a reallocation of assets. Bring them home in time for a Christmas break so they can be in the new theatre of Uganda chasing Christian freedom fighters wanting to rid their country of the radical Islamists.


29 posted on 10/15/2011 6:41:36 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: bigdaddy45

Not because we lost on the battlefield. Our media and politicians lost the war for us at home.


30 posted on 10/15/2011 6:41:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: bigdaddy45
Do you want Iraq to become an Iranian puppet and threat Israel? When you say we should leave Iraq, it is equivalent of saying destroy Israel. When Iraq becomes an Iranian puppet, guess what, the Hezbollah will have access to Syria via Iraq on ground and air, and be able to prepare to send massive force to invade Israel. I do not want to hear about comparing Vietnam with Iraq again, which Iraq is important to defend Israel from antisemitism regime of Iran.
31 posted on 10/15/2011 6:43:16 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: bigdaddy45
Leave those Iraqi's a big stash of bullets and let them shoot it out with each other.
32 posted on 10/15/2011 6:43:19 PM PDT by baiamonte
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To: mazda77

There you go. Hussein is simply shifting our military resources from fighting against Islamic terrorism, to fighting FOR his Muslim brothers.


33 posted on 10/15/2011 6:44:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: boop
He would OWN the bloodbath that would soon follow.

No, the Iraqis would own it. They are the ones insisting we submit US troops to Iraqi law, or leave.

34 posted on 10/15/2011 6:45:11 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: DemforBush

Arab spring is about to become Arab winter, but on the bright side, Israel won’t have to ask to overfly Iraq ever again.


35 posted on 10/15/2011 6:45:58 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Hugin
Sorry, I don’t see this as a valid comparison to Vietnam. We lost there.

Nope. We had evicerated the North Vietnamese Army and virtually wiped out the Viet Cong. A remarkable accomplishment given the the insane ROE's we shackled our troops with. All we needed to do was provide a modicum of support to the South Vietnamese (just like we need to be doing in Iraq).
Democrats in Congress wouldn't even do that for our allies. Tens of thousands that suppoerted a free South Vietnam were slaughtered or imprisoned when the country was overrun. Maybe we'll see a replay in Iraq in a few years...

36 posted on 10/15/2011 6:46:19 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Hugin
We lost there.

So you bought that Walter Cronkite BS too? We had that one won after the Tet Offensive. The NVA was preparing to surrender until General Cronkite decided that we lost.

This was in a day and time that the media was trusted and we only had the three networks.

37 posted on 10/15/2011 6:48:09 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: Wiz

So what do you want to do? The Iraqi government wants us to either submit our troops to Iraqi law or leave, which, btw, we signed an agreement to do. Are we supposed to overthrow the government we set up militarily occupy Iraq forever? What do you suggest? I would like to hear a real plan.


38 posted on 10/15/2011 6:53:07 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: Moorings
Iran is probably going to move right in.

Fixed it.

39 posted on 10/15/2011 6:58:10 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal; mazda77

There are more than one way to win a war, or lose it. We didn’t lose on the battlefield, but we lost. As Clauswitz said, war is the continuation of politics by other means. It doesn’t matter who won the battles, if you don’t acheive your political goals. The NV goal was to take SV and create a united communist state. Our goal was to stop them. They won, we lost.


40 posted on 10/15/2011 6:59:15 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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