"Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. "
~George Washington
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96 posted on 10/15/2011 12:54:47 PM PDT by trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)