Being a native New Yorker (Adirondack division x-fered to AZ) I protest the existence of Utica almost as much as that as NYC. Pretty much anything south and west of Watertown has to be declared another country if there is any hope for the state’s survival... ;)
When I grew up in NYS, everything north of White Plains was ok. I’m dismayed to hear the line has moved to the Mohawk Valley.