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Interior Department reviewing allegations in delta smelt case (department scientists lied?)
LaTimes ^ | 10/14/11 | Bettina Boxall

Posted on 10/14/2011 8:18:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

An Interior Department official said Thursday the agency will ask independent experts to review allegations by a federal judge that the testimony of two department scientists was so inconsistent and contradictory it amounted to deliberate deception.

U.S. District Court Judge Oliver Wanger attacked the credibility of the biologists last month shortly before retiring from the bench. At a hearing on a motion in a court case involving delta smelt protections, Wanger called one of the scientists a "zealot" and accused the agency of engaging in "bad faith."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: allegations; california; deltasmelt; interiordepartment; reviewing; scientists; smelt
I'm shocked, should have smelt this one coming. :-)

Go Judge Wanger!

1 posted on 10/14/2011 8:18:48 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

So, now will the San Joaquin Valley farmers get their water?


2 posted on 10/14/2011 8:24:00 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

when it falls from the sky..


3 posted on 10/14/2011 8:25:03 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
So, now will the San Joaquin Valley farmers get their water?

Hope they get their water and a hold of the lying scientist........if you follow my drift.

4 posted on 10/14/2011 8:29:08 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Mmm, dip some smelt, cure and smoke, and you have the beer drinker’s best friend. The smelt don’t care what happens to the water once they’ve swam through it, only that they have some water to live in. Confine them mechanically to points upstream, and they could care less where the water goes.


5 posted on 10/14/2011 8:30:00 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

When I went to the Times: there was a lovely picture of the delta smelt juxtaposed to a Rubios Fish Taco add.


6 posted on 10/14/2011 8:34:05 AM PDT by BoneHead
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To: NormsRevenge

Does anyone know who the scientist are? I read the article but it was short on details.


7 posted on 10/14/2011 8:41:57 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: NormsRevenge
EVERY Liberal-wacko/Enviro "Expert" should be investigated and the results of their "opinions" that cost taxpayers and consumers millions of dollars in delays and/or cancellations of beneficial projects should be held PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE, and made to pay the money back.

IF we would put a stop to phony Agenda-Driven Experts that do this crap and make them pay out of their own pockets, they would think twice about coming up with half-assed logic to cost millions to un-protected consumers, AND Taxpayers.

8 posted on 10/14/2011 8:58:16 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Why everyone ‘knows’ it is impossible for scientists to be so wrapped up in a cause that they would fudge their reports.

All you have to do is look at the climategate scandal.


9 posted on 10/14/2011 9:48:50 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: NormsRevenge

AS Adrian Monk would say, “Here is the problem.” Where is the story that Republican lawmakers had their science people at the table to rebut the Interior Department - where is the big show on Captial Hill of growers who lost their business or workers who lost their jobs...republcians can’t learn a single lesson about media control media message etc. etc. They manage to have a hearing and nobody in fly over country will know it happened - tree forest sounds.


10 posted on 10/14/2011 10:05:24 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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I have the feeling that the “delta smelt” is literally a man made problem.

Before farmers entered the “big valley”, all of the rivers were intermittant — snow was deposited on the mountains in the winter, and melted in the spring, producing large water flow. When the spring melt was finished, with quite intermittant rain, rivers shrank to very low flows. If the “delta smelt” existed at that time, it adapted to those conditions.

Then came the great dams and aquaducts to provide for irrigation of the best farmland in the world. The dams stored the spring melt and provided the water for irrigation during the entire growing season; as a result, there was a higher overall flow year round, resulting in either enlarging of the existing delta smelt population, or the migration of the delta smelt to an environment in which they could thrive for decades.

During the recent period of dryer years, the year round flow decreased, and now the environmentalists (who ignore what the environment was like before the dams were built) suddently discover a decreasing delta smelt population ... and raise the alarms, and present a one sided story; a judge listens to them and shuts down irrigation ... which was the reason that the delta smelt population was able to become high in the first place.

In a way, you can’t blame the judge — he was not provided with the full story; and justice, like computer software, is subject to the law of “Garbage in, Garbage out”.


11 posted on 10/14/2011 4:43:23 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: Mack the knife

I think you have done the kind of research that escapes the republican law makers.


12 posted on 10/14/2011 6:29:38 PM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: Mack the knife

The “Delta Smelt” is imported from the east, not native to California. Same as the striped bass.


13 posted on 10/14/2011 7:05:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

it is merely a bait fish. Enviro nut jobs have sued and cut off water from the Central Valley (which is the bread basket of the US) and destroyed the farms and much of the food production there. This of course led to high unemployment there about 20-30% This is a disgrace!


14 posted on 10/14/2011 9:43:20 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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