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Kirk: Political extremes can’t win elections (RINO says Tea Party can't win in 2012)
WJBC Radio AM 1230 FM 93.7 The Voice of Central Illinois ^ | 2011-10-8 | Dave Dahl

Posted on 10/09/2011 1:07:17 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: rabscuttle385

I see you libertarians never let up in fomenting divisions among Republicans, in service of your leftist democrap overlords.


21 posted on 10/09/2011 2:51:10 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: Colorado Cowgirl

Why do you care if someone is a ‘RINO,’ i.e., Republican in Name Only, when you dislike Republicans in the first place?

The label is truly meaningless and contradictory.

If you believe the GOP was ever 100% far right conservative, you are dreaming. And if you think it should be more conservative, then work within the party. However, you are not ever going to get perfect agreement on everything.

Oh, and you left out the libertarian component of the Tea Party, which is significant and dominant. They, I think, deserve the label ‘RINO’ because they disagree with virtually the entire RNC platform, yet find it convenient to wear the ‘R’ label when running for office.


22 posted on 10/09/2011 2:57:33 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: rabscuttle385

http://8ball.tridelphia.net/


23 posted on 10/09/2011 3:39:20 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: rabscuttle385

This kind of backstabbing babble was predictable from the day Illinois Republicans picked him over a conservative opponent.


24 posted on 10/09/2011 3:43:33 PM PDT by WOSG (“Legion of Acceptibility”)
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To: La Enchiladita

What’s your point? It’s kind of hard to make out.

If you are trying to say that Mitt Romeny represents the majority/consensus view within the Republican Party, you are delirious.


25 posted on 10/09/2011 3:43:39 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: rabscuttle385

Isn’t this the guy who filled the Baraq Hussein Obama seat after defeating the appointed Dem?


26 posted on 10/09/2011 3:44:38 PM PDT by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: La Enchiladita

“when you dislike Republicans in the first place?” I don’t dislike Republicans at all. What I dislike is someone disregarding voters who sent them to Washington and voting like they feel, or what is good for their cronies. I don’t care how they feel, or who their friends are. Vote like the hard working American people who sent you there, in the first place. We just want representation of our conservative values, patriotic views.


27 posted on 10/09/2011 3:55:56 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: La Enchiladita

Oh, and you left out the libertarian component of the Tea Party, which is significant and dominant. They, I think, deserve the label ‘RINO’ because they disagree with virtually the entire RNC platform, yet find it convenient to wear the ‘R’ label when running for office.”

That’s a good point.

Ron Paul is a RINO, due to his many libertarian-not-Republican positions, but his supporters calls others RINOs.


28 posted on 10/09/2011 3:59:34 PM PDT by WOSG (“Legion of Acceptibility”)
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To: VRW Conspirator
Hey Markie boy,

If it weren't for the Tea party folks, you would have lost to the mafia banker.

29 posted on 10/09/2011 4:19:32 PM PDT by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: rabscuttle385

He is absolutely correct. Just look at John McCain’s 2008 victory for president.


30 posted on 10/09/2011 4:25:12 PM PDT by MCF
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To: rabscuttle385

He’s such a treasure, ain’t he ?


31 posted on 10/09/2011 6:47:03 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: reg45

Who said he didn’t lose ? That election was fixed by the Combine. The RINO for the Senate and the rodent for the Governorship. They keep their hands and influence in both parties.


32 posted on 10/09/2011 6:48:48 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: rabscuttle385

The RINO states the obvious. There is no one group which in and of itself can win an election. The idea is for a group to get the other groups members to come to their side by convincing them of the “rightness” of their positions.


33 posted on 10/10/2011 2:06:52 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Kirk is a POS.


34 posted on 10/10/2011 5:42:31 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385
From Kirk's perspective, he probably believes that if he had run in liberal Illinois as a Tea Party core conservative in 2008, he would have lost, perhaps as badly as Alan Keyes did in 2004.

From what I know about the liberal cesspool that much of Illinois has become, I think he would be right.

Whatever the popularity of individual Tea Party candidates like Herman Cain might be, the notion that the Tea Party somehow appeals to the majority of mush-headed swing voters is delusional. The thrashing of Tea Party favorite Sharon Angle in Nevada in 2008 by the roundly disliked and unlikeable Harry Reid is a prime example of what happens when delusion meets reality.

I don't understand why you people think mush-brained nanny state-loving swing-voter dolts are somehow in thrall with the Tea Party. I wish that they were, but if they were, they wouldn't be mush-brained nanny state-loving swing-voter dolts.

And sadly, they're the voters who will elect the next president.

35 posted on 10/10/2011 6:08:33 AM PDT by behzinlea
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To: rabscuttle385

Kirk is right- IF you accept the two-candidate limit.

Romney breaks the model.


36 posted on 10/10/2011 6:12:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Political extremes can’t win elections

Ok butt munch Kirk, then explain how the most liberal, extremely polarizing and inexperienced Senator in the history of the US, got elected President in 2008 ?

37 posted on 10/10/2011 6:18:34 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: John Valentine

I do not expect you to understand the very clear point that I made about the stupidity and lack of logic in the ‘RINO’ label, but do NOT put words in my mouth and tell me what I am “trying” to say. If YOU have a point to make, then state it but do NOT misrepresent what I say. The fact that you attempt to do so indicates confusion and ill will on your part.


38 posted on 10/11/2011 1:42:50 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: Colorado Cowgirl
We just want representation of our conservative values, patriotic views.

I can name a least a dozen Republican politicians who have been labelled RINO on this forum who ARE patriotic. Many have high ACU ratings. None of that matters once they have been vilified by the 'true conservatives,' who have become so narrow and paranoid they have truly lost sight of what this nation is and should be. We were not founded as a "group think" nation and such a vision is a dead end.

To believe that someone is not patriotic because you have labelled them RINO is a grave error.

39 posted on 10/11/2011 1:50:36 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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