And what did Cain win before?
Apparently some of these debates judging by his rise in the polls. Debates are important despite what team Perry is saying. It is a first intro to these candidates to a lot of people. If Perry is not good in them, he had better step it up in other ways to make up ground. Bold policy moves would be a great start. He needs an Art Laffer's cocktail napkin.
He won second place against Johnny Isakson in an open primary for Senate back in 2004!