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Alabama Immigration Threat: Prove Your Legal Status Or Lose Water Supply
Guardian (UK) ^ | October 07, 2011 | Ed Pilkington

Posted on 10/07/2011 9:09:18 PM PDT by Steelfish

Alabama Immigration Threat: Prove Your Legal Status Or Lose Water Supply Poster put up in town hall illustrates potential impact of new laws which are now subject of appeal by federal government

Ed Pilkington 7 October 2011

The warning notice in Allgood, Alabama. Click the magnify icon to see the full poster

The poster is mildly worded, but carries a very big punch. "Attention to all water customers," it begins. "To be compliant with new laws concerning immigration you must have an Alabama driver's licence …"

And then comes the hit: "… or you may lose water service."

The warning, posted in the offices of a public water company in the small town of Allgood in Alabama, is the most graphic illustration yet of the draconian new immigration law coming into effect in the state. Under section 30 of the new law, HB56, anyone who lacks proper immigration papers is deemed to be committing a crime if they try to enter into a "business transaction" with the "state or a political subdivision of the state".

The law does not spell out what constitutes a "business transaction" or what particular state bodies are implicated, but judging from the poster put up by the Allgood Alabama Water Works company it is being interpreted widely enough to include the basic essentials of life.

"This demonstrates the cruelty of the new law by denying the most basic facilities to people. It's designed to make life so miserable that people self-deport, and this poster is a vivid example of what that looks like," said Jessica Karp of the National Day Laborers union.

Allison Neal, legal director of the Alabama branch of the American Civil Liberties Union, said: "If you want to see the harm that the law will cause, then you can't get much...

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: big; government; laws; socialism
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21 posted on 10/07/2011 10:00:03 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Netizen

Of course they do. They cite US code on everything they match. It is not a harbor for illegals, and they will not be. Alabama is not a stupid state. Your just supposed to think that.


22 posted on 10/07/2011 10:10:08 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Steelfish

Draconian? Nah, angelic.


23 posted on 10/07/2011 10:10:21 PM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (He hate me)
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To: Netizen

Yeah, remind me not to purchase a winter home in Gulf Shores. It wouldn’t be the same without hot water.


24 posted on 10/07/2011 10:10:28 PM PDT by Qout
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To: Qout

If your illegal then your correct.


25 posted on 10/07/2011 10:13:48 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Qout

I understand Houston is a sanctuary city. Maybe you can get hot water there.


26 posted on 10/07/2011 10:15:56 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

Thanks for the text of the bill. I guess an Alabama driver’s license isn’t required. A driver’s license from any state will suffice, or a US passport will do too.


27 posted on 10/07/2011 10:16:31 PM PDT by Qout
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To: Qout

“I guess if you lose your license due to a DUI, you lose your water service too.

Of course, a water bill will help establish residency when you re-apply for a driver’s license. Just a birth certificate isn’t enough.

Now if you’re from Georgia and have a Georgia driver’s license and move to Alabama, you’ll have to go to the DMV and switch. Of course, they’ll ask for proof of residency. A utility bill will do. Except that you can’t get water service without an Alabama driver’s license.”

Exactly. If this was about deporting people, then they would simply deport them. No, this is about government control over the basic functions of life. You need to ask the government permission to turn on your water.

Nobody sees the problems in this? Nobody here is worried that all it takes is some obstructive bureaucrat to cut your water off?

Meanwhile, renting from someone who does have all of the above solves the problem for you, and doesn’t address the problem of illegal immigrants.


28 posted on 10/07/2011 10:16:49 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Qout

A birth certificate will suffice.


29 posted on 10/07/2011 10:18:45 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress
A birth certificate will suffice.

So you can't get water in Alabama w/o a BC but you can be POTUS?

OK.

30 posted on 10/07/2011 10:22:42 PM PDT by South40 (I will vote for Perry if he's the last man standing against Romney. ~ Jim Robinson 10/5/2011)
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To: BenKenobi

Hold it Ben. I had to show a valid DL in Phoenix when I moved from Knoxville. Knoxville required a BC 30 yrs ago. This isn’t anything new. The falsifying has caused the crackdown. The process had holes but it has always been there. Don’t get suckered in on this lefty crap.


31 posted on 10/07/2011 10:23:42 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: South40

I didn’t say he had one nor was I given the chance to vet that so what the hell do you want me to say.......”to hell with it. I didn’t vet the president so “come on down” your the next contestant to “F” America!


32 posted on 10/07/2011 10:27:07 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress
I didn’t say he had one nor was I given the chance to vet that so what the hell do you want me to say....

Are you joking or were you seriously bothered by my comment?

It was a comment on Obama not you.

33 posted on 10/07/2011 10:31:08 PM PDT by South40 (I will vote for Perry if he's the last man standing against Romney. ~ Jim Robinson 10/5/2011)
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To: eyedigress

I grew up on a well. A real well, not owned by the government. This really frightens me that the government could just shut off the tap at will.

I understand that fraud is the problem but this won’t catch fraud, nor will it catch those who have assistance from those who are already citizens.

Do you really trust the Obama government not to make mistakes and shut off someone’s water without waiting to get confirmation from them?

They could do that to some shut in, cut her off and then kill her because she has no clue why the water is off.

They should al least wait for confirmation of fraud prior to doing anything.


34 posted on 10/07/2011 10:31:21 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: unkus

We’re trying :)


35 posted on 10/07/2011 10:32:51 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: BenKenobi
Obama didn't do this, our newly elected Governor Bentley did, and the people of Alabama, especially LEGAL Immigrants are behind him, one hundred percent.
36 posted on 10/07/2011 10:35:06 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Steelfish
Welcome to America...sign the book on your way in and abide by the laws.
37 posted on 10/07/2011 10:39:04 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Shadowstrike

I’m sorry. I grew up on a farm. This is just mindboggling to me that people would be ok with this sort of thing. It’s bad enough that the government tries to restrict what can or can’t be done with our own property.

I just hope it doesn’t happen that someone dies because mistakes were made by the bureaucrats.


38 posted on 10/07/2011 10:39:36 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi

I have lived off of wells many times in my life and the Fed has NOTHING to even know where they are. The Governments from 1968 forward thought it was doable as the migrants would come and go.


39 posted on 10/07/2011 10:40:02 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: BenKenobi

This thread isn’t about that.


40 posted on 10/07/2011 10:42:38 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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