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Perry backer: Romney in a 'cult,' not a Christian
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Posted on 10/07/2011 7:45:17 PM PDT by LouAvul

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To: Psalm 144

Exactly.


21 posted on 10/07/2011 8:34:59 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: MNJohnnie
I see you're still running around FR hyperventilating about Rick Perry.

If you get down off your high horse and look around you can easily find where Perry stands on all the issues. Perry for President covers some of his stances and On the Issues website fills in the the blanks with all the hard data any one could ever use. Stop being laqzy. Google is your friend. And NO, don't ask me to help you. Do your own research, smear merchant.

Btw, you should stop eating those bennies like they were candy. LOL

22 posted on 10/07/2011 8:42:25 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: reaganaut

IMO, Romney’s religion is a valid issue, it determines his worldview and the culture and frankly, also affects his political stances and his flip flopping.

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I certainly respect your take on Mormonism reaganaut, and sometime would like to know why it would have bearing on his politics and flip flopping. LEADING with that as a criticism though is bad politics, IMO. The majority of Americans have scant understanding of Christianity, far less Mormonism. Few care, in what is frankly a witlessly apostate general population. I just don’t see the percentage in choosing that as the principal point of attack when so many other approaches are easier and will have more resonance in an anti-statist atmosphere.


23 posted on 10/07/2011 8:43:18 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: PETENICK1
we haven’t even got to his sexual stuff and his transfer of money from taxpayers to his buddy in Houston

Say what you will as long as you have facts to back it up.

This is nothing but nasty slander.

24 posted on 10/07/2011 9:19:40 PM PDT by Texan
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To: reaganaut

The MSM will never attack him for being a Mormon because their hero Harry Reid is a Mormon too. Better a Mormon than a Muslim.


25 posted on 10/07/2011 9:33:58 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: MNJohnnie

How about this. Make a rational case FOR Perry based on his Presidential Agenda.

OH but that right. He has yet to tell us what it would be.

So you would rather support a guy who whole campaign consists of continually telling us “Vote for me I am a great guy from Texas” then one who is offering a solid Conservative agenda with real solutions to problems.
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I don’t need to make a rational case for Perry to suit your whims, you’ve shown yourself to be loud and rude in my best estimation.

You like Cain, that does me no harm—get on with your bad-self but don’t expect me to kowtow to your demands.


26 posted on 10/07/2011 9:35:56 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: LouAvul
Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. He is the only one I look to for salvation. His grace has saved me spiritually and for ever, and the prayers of many faithful friends, amd that faith in Jesus Christ saw me through my recent bout with major, malignant bone cancer and months of hospitialization and rehabilitation.

When my Savior tells me,

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." Mathew 11:28-30
I believe Him... and have done so.

I am also a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, what many call a "Mormon."

And I am supporting Herman Cain for President now that Sarah Palin is not getting in.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

27 posted on 10/07/2011 9:46:10 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Saundra Duffy
Amen Saundra. See my post 27. God bless! Now that Sarah is out...I am for Herman Cain.
28 posted on 10/07/2011 9:50:47 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: dandiegirl

The MSM will never attack him for being a Mormon because their hero Harry Reid is a Mormon too. Better a Mormon than a Muslim.

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Nope. Double standard. If Mittens gets the nom it will all be about the racist history of Mormonism, them becoming Gods, the White Horse prophecy and a lot of other stuff.

And Mormonism is a lot closer to Islam than most realize, even to the point of the LDS shunning Christian charities in favor of Muslim ones.

In the heat of the Missouri “Mormon War” of 1838, Joseph Smith made the following claim, “I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us—‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ - Joseph Smith

And that is just for starters...

I know far too much about Mormonism (from personal experience) to ever vote for one.


29 posted on 10/07/2011 9:54:09 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Deagle

Since when has religion become a reason to vote for or against a candidate?

Do you really want Obama for another term?

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Since I became a Christian and realized how much worldview is determined by religion. I know way too much about Mormonism to ever vote for one.

I don’t want Zero, but I sure as Hell don’t want Romney either. Neither is acceptable.


30 posted on 10/07/2011 9:57:48 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Saundra Duffy; LouAvul; Jeff Head; Elsie; ejonesie22; greyfoxx39; Godzilla; T Minus Four

What makes you a member of cult, Sandy, is the LDS teachings you fail to mention...like you can become Gods, Jesus is only one of 3 gods of the godhead, Jesus is a created being, God wasn’t always God, Jesus only saves you ‘after all you can do’ and you have to ‘pay him back’, that the Bible is corrupt, that Christ died only so you could be resurrected, exaltation (aka Heaven for Christians) only comes to good ‘worthy’ temple LDS.

And I can source all of those using LDS sources if you would like.


31 posted on 10/07/2011 10:10:32 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Psalm 144

There is certainly many other reasons to not vote for (or vote against) Mitt, but it concerns me that there are people who buy the propaganda so easily. For me, and many others, Mitt’s religion is an issue and it will be a major factor if he gets the nomination. It is better to be prepared, IMO of the arguments that will be presented.


32 posted on 10/07/2011 10:23:58 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Amen Sister!


33 posted on 10/07/2011 10:29:42 PM PDT by dixjea
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To: Jeff Head; LouAvul

Jeff, have you done ‘all you can do’ according to your church’s teachings for grace to kick in? Are you fully obedient to the ‘laws and ordinances’ of the gospel so that you may be saved?

Your post sounds nice, but it isn’t Mormon theology at all, and I can source that.

Sorry.


34 posted on 10/07/2011 10:36:00 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

Ah yes... but according to Glen Beck (sorry for the mention) you do have to choose between the lesser of two evils (at times)...

So... what/who do you choose?


35 posted on 10/07/2011 10:45:33 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle; Jim Robinson

I have said several times, I will not vote for Romney and if he is the nominee, like JR, I am out of the GOP for good.

Neither is acceptable and I will stand by my Christian principles. I cannot, as a Christian, vote for Romney.

Courtesy ping to JR.


36 posted on 10/07/2011 10:54:08 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

Can understand you position... but when the forces of evil are elected, you should look to yourself...


37 posted on 10/07/2011 11:14:30 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: LouAvul

Keeping up this nonsense plays into Obama’s hands. Think about it, especially if Romney gets the nomination. Obama and his tools will use this and make it look like the Republicans bad-mouthed Romney’s religion. I believe that it is illegal to discriminate based upon race, creed, etc.... but here we have this pastor doing just that with his character assassination!


38 posted on 10/07/2011 11:16:32 PM PDT by Ranger Warrior ("To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Deagle

No, I will look to the GOP, it is their election to lose, and by shoving Romney down our throats they will be the ones who re-elect Obama.

I for one will do my best to make sure that Romney doesn’t get the nomination, even if that means fighting the GOP establishment.


39 posted on 10/07/2011 11:41:32 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

Understand you reaction... do not necessarily agree (especially if Obama gets reelected) but do understand..


40 posted on 10/07/2011 11:59:25 PM PDT by Deagle
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