[mamelukesabre]

Listen up buddy, I like your posts on this thread. I don’t know if I agree with everything you say, but i do want you to keep talking.

btw, its starting to sound to me like you are in favor of building new refineries in north america. I like that idea. In fact, I’ve been wondering out loud why we don’t build a refinery in north dakota...along with all the other ancillaries that go with a refinery...as in hydro cracking and such.

Lots of jobs. lots of national security. lots of american know how and independence. Sure, maybe some ass*holes in DC and wallstreet won’t get as big a bonus on their stocks, but do I need to quantify my regrets on that to you?

[mamelukesabre]

You need to get into this discussion pronto, thackney!

[org.whodat]

The last time we had a fuel shortage in the south and fuel shot up because of the shortage, i said this is stupid, we need refinery's somewhere else. Building them close to the source is win win, the fight is over. Jobs are jobs.

I do not grasp the need of the pipe line at all.. and bringing the Chinese into it is stupid as well, hell they will make the pipe no matter what.