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To: org.whodat
So how is piping it south and piping it back north to market cost effective, are have they stopped driving in denver and chicago, etc. Etc.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

You realize that there is some profit derived by the refiner--why shouldn't it be in the U. S.? And, there's a pretty good transportation infrastructure centered around Oklahoma. Isn't that more centrally located than the Canadian field for distribution around the U. S.? And why build refineries up there if they exist here?

Now, if my assumptions are wrong, and the pipeline will cause some problems, tell me about it, and I'll reconsider my take on the situation.

17 posted on 10/07/2011 5:05:14 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

There is nothing wrong with building new refriners, just south of the border is there. At least they would not be shutting down and running up price everytime a storm hits the gulf.


20 posted on 10/07/2011 5:08:18 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Whiting Refinery Modernization Project

http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9030203&contentId=7055766#7205736

Today, BP is investing several billion dollars in Northwest Indiana to modernize its Whiting Refinery for the processing of heavier crudes. The modernization is essential to the long-term viability of the refinery, and includes well over a billion dollars in environmental improvements.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/STAGING/global_assets/downloads/A/abp_wwd_us_whiting_refining_fact_sheet.pdf

The modernization
project will provide for greater energy security in the
Midwest, as conventional supplies of the lighter crudes
diminish, and are replaced by heavier crudes.

With this in mind, the project involves repositioning Whiting
to be able to run heavier sour crude oil. It involves a new
crude distillation unit, a 100kbd coker, world scale
hydrotreating and sulphur recovery, and improvements


27 posted on 10/07/2011 5:22:44 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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