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To: edge919
You didn't prove anything. You are just engaging in SOPHISMS!!! Like, for example:

It didn't say it was "looking to common law" ... the phrase is "at common law"

And, bad for you, a LATER CASE, backs me up!!!

In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the Fourteenth Amendment now in question, said: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.” And he [Waite, in case you want to pretend you don't get it!!!] proceeded to resort to the common law as an aid in the construction of this provision. 21 Wall. 167.

Sooo, obviously that is where Waite got his definition, from common law, and NOT natural law or Vattel, and I HAVE A SCOTUS Case that says so!!!

Plus, since you will claim you don't know what sophisms are, here is a definition from a very good and exciting new Internet Article about a Vattle Birther who can't understand "See Spot run!!!"

A sophism is a derogatory term, and means a specious argument or verbal trick used for deception. It might be crafted to appear logical while actually representing a falsehood, or it might use obscure words and use complicated sentence constructions in order to fool people and misrepresent the truth. And, before you ask, specious means superficially plausible, but actually wrong.

So There!!!

542 posted on 10/18/2011 4:16:33 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Squeeky
And, bad for you, a LATER CASE, backs me up!!!

In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the Fourteenth Amendment now in question, said: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.” And he [Waite, in case you want to pretend you don't get it!!!] proceeded to resort to the common law as an aid in the construction of this provision. 21 Wall. 167.

I've already cited this in post #512. I gave you a specific challenge based on this citation. It does NOT back up anything you believe. It claims Waite resorted to common law as an "aid" in the construction of the birth provision of the 14th amendment. It does NOT say that Waite used common law to define NBC. Read it closer. It does NOT say what you think it says. Here's what I posted early in #512. Still waiting for you to respond to this challenge:

And ... here's another challenge, ez squeezy. Justice Gray said that Waite " ... proceeded to resort to the common law as an aid in the construction of this provision." Notice he doesn't say that Waite resorted to common law as an aid in saying who shall be natural-born citizens. It was aid in the construction of this "provision" ... "provision" is referring to the 14th amendment: "the very provision of the Fourteenth Amendment now in question" ... soooooooooooooo the challenge is to go to the Minor decision and find where Waite used common law to aid in the construction of the birth provision of the 14th amendment. He didn't use common law to define NBC. That, as I have shown, is a verbatim match of the law of nations quote.

543 posted on 10/18/2011 7:50:27 PM PDT by edge919
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