I think it is defined pretty clearly, and nobody has any trouble understanding it except the Vattle Birthers. They are the ones making everybody look stupid. Take Mark Levin for example. He said real simple, Mark Rubio was born in Miami, he’s a NBC. No debate. With the legal stuff, there isn’t any REAl debate because it is sooo clear anybody can understand it. Sooo, why should anybody latch onto to what is a clear losing battle even since 1844.
But, common sense suspicious Birthers have a lot easier and sensible argument, even if you don’t agree with them. Obama has dodged court 90 times, and puts out a long form that is like a White Out commercial. I have never had any problem debating whether Obama should have released it, back before he did, and even now I have good arguments on why we are not a conspiracy theory.
I have always said that Birthers might be wrong, but we weren’t crazy. Plus, by staying away from all this ignorant Vattle stuff, it makes out other arguments stronger. I can just ask how someone can expect Obama to fix anything like a $14 trillion economy, when it takes him 3 years to cough up a $14 long form. . .and guess what??? People get it.
Then, I can argue that Obama is trying to screw with people by releasing a squirrely long form. Or he is stupid and incompetent. Which even on a Obot radio show, when I asked the question, the host had to admit the long form image was squirrely.
Sooo, I can’t stand these Vattle Birthers. They butcher the law, and make stuff up, and ignore common sense stuff and if we hang around them, we are going to look as stupid as they are.Plus, their stupid theory means people like Rubio and Jindal can’t run, and just who does that help??? Sooo, that is also why I wonder if some of these are Obots trying to punk us some more, because on one of their websites they just brag about how they forged stuff and punked people. But they are NOT punking me!!!
Let” see?...Opinion of a Freeper? ....or...a definitive ruling from the Supreme Court?...( the Supreme Court wins.)
One reason to get this complete clarified for legal illiterates, such as myself, is that there is Jindal and Rubio being suggested as possible presidential candidates. Given the definition of some regarding natural born citizenship, the baby born in LA recently to the U.S. citizen mom and his drug lord Mexican dad, could re-enter the country at age 23 and then 14 years later run for president. I do NOT think that is what the Founding Fathers had in mind. Seriously! I don't. They wanted a president with NO NO NO encumbering allegiances to any other country whatsoever.
Even if it means a Constitutional Amendment to fully get this matter resolved then we must do this. Because I believe that our Founding Fathers did not want a person with any other allegiance to any other country in any form.