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To: Squeeky
Professor Gilmore...Vattel is used in the Constitution regarding citizenship. Photobucket
388 posted on 10/16/2011 4:11:28 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
Oh what a surprise that you did not quote this one right either. And once again you did not put a link, sooo I googled the words and found a whole Internet Article on where somebody else tried to say what you just did (screen name "e. vattel" --is that YOU???). But here is the REAL FULL story what was said:

So far as Mr. Vattel states the doctrine on the subject of citizenship in this section he states it correctly, but there are other questions on this subject, not noticed by him, which it would be well to state. These have reference to the following: “

“I. Children born of the subjects of one power in the territory of another.

2. Illegitimate children born of a foreign mother.

3. Foreign women who have married the subject of a State.

Upon these points the doctrine in United States, is,

1, That children of foreigners born here are American citizens if they elect to declare themselves so, whilst the children of American citizens born abroad are themselves citizens of the United States, unless the 14th amendment has changed this doctrine, upon which there is a difference of opinion;
2, Illegitimate children belong to the State of which the mother was the subject;

and 3, Except in the United States, the nationality of a wife is merged in that of her husband, so that in those countries, when a woman marries a foreigner she loses her own nationality and acquires his; but here a native woman marrying a foreigner remains the subject of the State, though an alien woman marrying a citizen of the United States becomes herself naturalized, unless she continue throughout her husband’s lifetime, a non-resident. Hall’s Inter. Law, secs. 68, 69, 70. “Notes on a Course of Lectures on Vattel’s Law of Nations” by James Gilmore, 1891.

Plus, again you left off a link, I guess because you do not want anybody checking up on you. Plus, you butchered the sense of the sentence as bad as edge919 butchers stuff, because "Vattel is correct" stuff is about owing allegiance to the U.S and the U.S being entitled to protection in return." Which is why Gilmore whoever pointed out about the stuff Vattel was NOT right about. Plus, the date of this is 1891 and OH what is it that happened 7 years later??? Wong Kim Ark maybe???

Sooo, please tell us how you managed to find the Gilmore stuff, and then managed to quote it, but then how you didn't quite manage to find the rest of his paragraph where it said:That children of foreigners born here are American citizens if they elect to declare themselves so, .

Were you just sloppy??? Or, were you trying to fool people here about stuff so they won't vote for Mark Rubio or Bobby Jindal??? This is two things now that you have just butchered to pieces, and falsely cut and pasted. You owe everybody here a explanation!!!

396 posted on 10/16/2011 12:29:28 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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