What the Vattel "natural born" crowd seems not to realize is correct or not, "thems the rules." So when one of the Vattel crowd says that 0bama should have been deported with his father, they may be expressing a common wish of all of us, but not what the law has been held to be. So my question to you - do you recognize what the law is? Or are you assuming it is always what we want it to be?
And you keep repeating that false accusation. The fallibility of the courts is directly related to this issue. Many of us argue that Wong Kim Ark was wrongly decided, and THAT is the linchpin of many of your arguments. If your side will admit that the court sometimes gets things wrong, then we could demonstrate how they got Wong Kim Ark wrong, and at the very least stop discussing the ridiculous subsequent cases based on the wrongly decided Precedent.
The issue isn't whether WKA or Rogers v Bellei is correctly decided. The issue is that they were decided a certain way, and as of now, that is the law of the land. When we think it's wrong we need to try to change the law, not claim it's what we want it to be.
We need to declare it wrong, and keep explaining WHY it is wrong, until the public eventually accepts the meme and demands that it be fixed. Constantly repeating that something is "correct" when it is in fact "wrong" does a disservice to the nation. With that goal in mind, the first step is to get the supporters of wrong decisions (that would be you and co) to admit that the courts will get things wrong.
What the Vattel "natural born" crowd seems not to realize is correct or not, "thems the rules." So when one of the Vattel crowd says that 0bama should have been deported with his father, they may be expressing a common wish of all of us, but not what the law has been held to be. So my question to you - do you recognize what the law is? Or are you assuming it is always what we want it to be?
I think that point is still valid. Had Stanley Ann and Barack Obama actually been a REAL couple, Stanley would have left with Barack, and took Barry with her. He could have grown up in Kenya where his idiocy wouldn't have been noticed. It is obvious that some years later Stanley Ann DID leave with Lolo Soetoro when he was deported, so the central argument of this entire thread is established as true beyond any doubt.
Now, to get back to the point which I want to establish (Whether or not your side is going to defend the court as Infallible) Do You believe Roe v Wade was correctly decided?