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To: Squeeky
Yes, I caught it, you MONKEY. YOU did not "catch it." They were talking about the time BEFORE the 14th Amendment.

squeezy, that's NOT what the Hillbillies said. They said "written only six years after the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified, the Court observed that" ... whether it was six years or 60 years after the 14th amendment, it is still part of the Constitution. The court in Minor said that Virginia Minnor argued she was a citizen by virtue of the 14th amendment, but they rejected this argument because NBC, which she fit, is NOT defined by the Constitution and under the definition they used, it's clearly NOT defined by the 14th amendment. Compare"

Justice Waite: "all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens"

14th Amendment: "all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

HINT: These are NOT the same definitions. The conclusion stands. The Constitution, specially the 14th amendment, does NOT define natural born citizen, just as Ankeny unwittingly admitted.

What part of BEFORE and AFTER the 14th Amendment are YOU not getting???

The parts where Justice Gray in Wong Kim Ark says that children born in the country to citizen parents are EXCLUDED from the 14th amendment and the part in Minor where Waite says women did NOT need the 14th amendment to confer their citizenship. You're trying to create a time element that somehow changes the term natural-born citizen into being defined by the 14th amendment, but there's absolutely NO passage in Minor or Wong Kim Ark that says this. NONE.

325 posted on 10/13/2011 1:14:47 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

Let me try to put this on YOUR reading level:

See the Constitution!
1789!
Read! Read! Read!
No defining of Citizens.
No! No! No!

Oh, 1868!
Look! Look! Look!
A Amendment!
Oh! Oh! Oh!
Number 14!
Count! Count! Count!

All persons born here are citizens!
Citizens! Citizens! Citizens!
Yes, defining of Citizens!
Yes! Yes! Yes!

See Edge919 Run!
Run! Edge919! Run!
Run! Run! Run!
Pretend! Pretend! Pretend!

If you ever decide to quit pretending this isn’t making sense to you, and pretending you don’t get it, let me know!


327 posted on 10/13/2011 1:34:59 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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