Once again, you are trying to distract from the issue at hand, and change the subject. The answer is no, and no, so get back to the real issue on this thread - the court did not order the children deported. It only said that the citizenship of the children (acknowledged by the court to be "natural born") would not affect the decision to deport the parent.
You make the mistake of thinking that those of us trying to tell what the law actually is are arguing in favor of it. Instead, we're trying to explain that the law is what it is, and you claiming it's not is tinfoilish. Example: Adultery is wrong and repugnant but in many states, the law allows it. But to claim it doesn't in a state with no law against it, is nuts.
You see it as a "distraction" and I see it as "evidence." Why on earth would anyone have made such a ridiculous and stupid law? The framers of the 14th were not idiots.
You make the mistake of thinking that those of us trying to tell what the law actually is are arguing in favor of it. Instead, we're trying to explain that the law is what it is, and you claiming it's not is tinfoilish. Example: Adultery is wrong and repugnant but in many states, the law allows it. But to claim it doesn't in a state with no law against it, is nuts.
Again you mistake the point. *I* don't care what legal morons *SAY* is the law, I care what is the law *ACTUALLY*. Just because a court, or even a series of courts takes a WRONG TURN, does not mean the rest of us should blindly follow their erroneous dictates. We should teach people what the CORRECT interpretation of the law is, and we should fight to eliminate WRONG interpretations of the law.
Your thinking reminds me of the "Thunder Birds" Air Force Demonstration team. All the team members are taught to look at the leader during dangerous maneuvers, and follow his lead. Some years ago, they did exactly that, and all of them flew into the ground.
On January 18, 1982, during a training flight four of Thunderbirds's aircrafts crash in Indian Springs, Nevada. The diamond tries to perform loop in a line abreast, when the leader's plane received mechanical break-down, which does not allow it to exit from loop. During the flights in such a closer formation (typical for most flying teams) all the pilots follows visually the leader and if they are on a one-plane distance from him they follow the plane between the leader and them and do not look out or to the panel.All the rest three completely trouble-free aircrafts follows the leader until he crashed to the ground, causing the deaths of all four Thunderbird's pilots.
Our Court system works by a like principle, with each court giving more credibility to the words of previous courts than they do to the people who actually CREATED the laws. *THIS IS WRONG.*
Laws are principles encoded in the poor medium of written language. Let us never forget that it is the principle which is important, not whatever interpretation can be wrung out of the words.