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To: DiogenesLamp
I just want to know how you can argue a right to life at conception but you see citizenship as a consequence of birth. It is a puzzling dichotomy.

Go ask Justice Scalia, or Justices Roberts, Thomas, or Alito - if they saw it your way they would accept one of the "natural born" cases. Or for that matter, the Founding Fathers such as James Madison.

These are two different issues. If you float this theory publicly, people will be looking for your tinfoil hat. I am not a lawyer, but I know the law is often imperfect, confusing, even contradictory. But much better than no law at all. And we are discussing what the law is here, not what we wish it would be.

231 posted on 10/10/2011 8:40:35 AM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: sometime lurker
Go ask Justice Scalia, or Justices Roberts, Thomas, or Alito - if they saw it your way they would accept one of the "natural born" cases. Or for that matter, the Founding Fathers such as James Madison.

I think I am wasting my time pointing out to you that this is both argumentum ad vericundiam and argumentum ad populum. The Sun does not rise and set by what any of these people believe either singularly or together. Nor does the fact that the SCOTUS didn't decide to hear the case prove that it has no merit. There are 4 idiots on the supreme court, and 1 nitwit.

These are two different issues. If you float this theory publicly, people will be looking for your tinfoil hat.

Yes, the recognition by the law for unborn children is just crazy talk.

I am not a lawyer, but I know the law is often imperfect, confusing, even contradictory. But much better than no law at all. And we are discussing what the law is here, not what we wish it would be.

And yet the "law" runs cowering in terror from addressing this issue. Yeah, that helps a lot.

260 posted on 10/11/2011 8:58:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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