Sorry if you cannot follow the logic, it is after all axiomatic. The Axiom that "birth" is the requirement to establish Human rights, is the same requirement that you cite to establish "citizenship." Are you certain you don't see the connection?
You want to zot me on that basis, go ahead.
I want to figure out if you need to be zotted or not. Not quite the same thing. I am tolerant of dissent, just not agents provocateur. Pro-Lifers are not usually coy about their position.
It wont change the fact that youre wrong about jus soli, as shown by previous SCOTUS decisions. It also wont change that youre wrong about legally deporting those born on American soil.
Forgive me, but I don't adhere to the notion that "SCOTUS" decides truth. They just decide which way the guns point. *I* am arguing for what is true, not which direction to point the guns.
No sorry, I don't. And it sounds like Justices Thomas, Alito, Roberts and Scalia also don't see that same connection, or they would have taken one of the "natural born" cases.
Forgive me, but I don't adhere to the notion that "SCOTUS" decides truth. They just decide which way the guns point. *I* am arguing for what is true, not which direction to point the guns.
And that's where wires are getting crossed. In the perfect world where truth always wins out, there would be no abortion, no one could cross the border illegally, there would be no divorce, no homosexuality. But that's not what we're discussing - we're discussing what the law says, what the Constitution says. And SCOTUS most definitely decides the law, even when they're wrong, corrupt, or just plain stupid about it.
So if you want to discuss that kind of truth, this isn't the thread to do it and you're changing the subject. If you want to discuss whether according to law 0bama would have been deported, this is the place.
No sorry, I don't. And it sounds like Justices Thomas, Alito, Roberts and Scalia also don't see that same connection, or they would have taken one of the "natural born" cases.
Forgive me, but I don't adhere to the notion that "SCOTUS" decides truth. They just decide which way the guns point. *I* am arguing for what is true, not which direction to point the guns.
And that's where wires are getting crossed. In the perfect world where truth always wins out, there would be no abortion, no one could cross the border illegally, there would be no divorce, no homosexuality. But that's not what we're discussing - we're discussing what the law says, what the Constitution says. And SCOTUS most definitely decides the law, even when they're wrong, corrupt, or just plain stupid about it.
So if you want to discuss that kind of truth, this isn't the thread to do it and you're changing the subject. If you want to discuss whether according to law 0bama would have been deported, this is the place.