[sometime lurker]

Your simple-minded examples are not the same construction that was used by Gray. I’ve showed you this several times. At what point do YOU start showing some intellectual honesty???

• 1. Ad hominem attack, generally resorted to when you know you are wrong.
• 2. You've attempted to wiggle out of this several times, but what you showed was simply that you either didn't understand what you were reading, or chose to take a dishonest shortcut instead of making a cogent argument based on what was really there.

Removing the "neither... nor" reversed the meaning of the quote.

[edge919]

1. This whine about ad hominem attacks is from the person who referred to me as “the quote butcher.” If you dish it out, you get it back in return, so man up.
2. Nobody has attempted to “wiggle out” of anything. I’ve met your arguments head on and exposed within them a combination of ignorant premises, oversimplification, distortion, dishonesty and gross errors, such as the fallacy you cling to about a “neither ... nor” phrase that I’ve shown has no impact on the core clause of the sentence.