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A job is becoming a dim memory for many unemployed
AP/WorldMag ^ | Oct 6, 10:46 PM EDT | CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER and MARTIN CRUTSINGER

Posted on 10/06/2011 8:00:36 PM PDT by quantim

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To: the invisib1e hand

If all their systems are unix, you better know the basics. There is nothing legacy about it, unix and its various flavors are still the most widely used server platform in the world.

Our development and production servers at work are all unix boxes, and while I don’t do sys admin type work, I still need to be able to write little scripts, use things like cvs, vi, sed, grep, chron, change permissions on files, that sort of thing. Routine, daily work. If experience with unix is not on someone’s resume, they get tossed in the round file.

If you are just starting out, I’d recommend an online linux tutorial for command line—any will probably do to get you started. GUIs are nice, but knowing many of the basic commands from a command line interface (CLI) is necessary.


41 posted on 10/07/2011 9:44:19 AM PDT by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: LomanBill

Calvinball: there are no rules.


42 posted on 10/07/2011 10:21:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HHFi

Yes and no.

I’m with you. I got out of the University of California Davis with an engineering degree in 1982, to the worst recession prior to this one, and no jobs. I worked as a busboy and a grocery clerk before I finally got an engineering job.

So yes, if you aren’t working, you probably aren’t trying hard enough, and the generous government “safety net” is so sustantial these days, many people don’t need to work to get by unless you have a house payment.

Now, onto the “no” of “yes and no”.

We are in an economic depression. Times are clearly harder and job prospects are clearly less than the recession you and I went through in the early 80s. It is really brutal out their trying to get a job. People who aren’t lazy or satisfied collecting unemployment, are really scrambling and pulling out the stops. You have to be top flight today — really energetic and great at selling yourself, a great looking woman, or a charming guy, to get a job these days.

I’m grateful I have never been unemployed since the 6 months after I graduated college in 1982, but this depression is way worse than anything we went through.

Your point is valid that motivated people who bust their ass will find something eventually while the quitters and lazy sit and rot, but it really is different this time. The job market is simply brutal in this economic depressing. I thank the Lord for my job right now, and that I am not out on the streets competing to sell myself in this climate.


43 posted on 10/07/2011 10:46:10 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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To: Betis70

thx, got it. what is the big draw of this thing anyway? Open source? Why doesn’t that make it a greater security risk? I know I’m missing something key here.


44 posted on 10/07/2011 2:16:45 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: the invisib1e hand; ShadowAce

I’m guessing you mean Linux, as most Unix systems are not open-source. The theory is that the more eyes you have on the source code, the less chance you have security holes. Or perhaps more accurately, the quicker people will fix the code and put out a patch for it. Also since you have the source code, if you know the programming language, you can fix it yourself.

Another factor is that Linux was originally designed to run on inexpensive, commodity-level hardware (Intel-Windows machines) as opposed to very expensive, proprietary hardware, which at the time was all that was available for Unix systems. You get near Unix-level stability for a fraction of the cost.

For you and I, it gives us a chance to learn/tinker with a Unix-like OS on our own time, without having to find a class or convince an employer for on-the-job training.

I’m not Unix/Linux expert, just user-level. If you are interested, ShadowAce maintains a FR Tech Ping list.


45 posted on 10/07/2011 4:21:06 PM PDT by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: quantim

“...found it especially hard to find jobs...”

“find”....a word right out of the collectivist government handbook.

In our nation one should be able to CREATE (vocatio= i.e. ones’ calling), not “find” work.

The government has placed barriers against start-up business CREATION (at every level), stiffled competition, and regulated corporations right out of the States.

Furthermore, so called public “education” should have every HS grad. capable of starting one’s OWN business. Not “find” work.


46 posted on 10/07/2011 4:40:11 PM PDT by Varsity Flight
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