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To: CharlesWayneCT
who I actually like as a good conservative, except when he is insulting me with charges of latent racism.

Only problem is he never said any such thing.

When you have to willfully distort what the other candidates say in a vain effort to prop up your candidate's campaign, you have lost the debate.

Glad you like Perry. That does not excuse knowingly lying about what Cain said.

Cain was asked a question, he answered it. Sorry the Perry supporters find the issue the question was asked about so embarrassing.

46 posted on 10/06/2011 11:05:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
Are you still claiming that Rick Perry personally painted the rock? Or have you conceded that you were lying about that one? You do seem to still be calling other people liars.

Herman Cain: "“[There is not] a more vile negative word than the N-word and for him to leave it there as long as he did, before I hear that they finally painted it over is just plain insensitive to a lot of black people in this country.”

There is no other interpretation for what Cain said. Forget that he had his facts wrong -- he is saying that any person who wouldn't think to immediately remove the rock is insensitive to black people.

And I can tell you for a fact that in 1981, I doubt I would have painted over a rock on land my father was leasing, just because it had the name "N*ggerHead" on it. I wouldn't have used the word (as I was finally an adult and didn't use childish namecalling) but I wouldn't have thought too much about whether a then-common name, found in the woods somewhere, would be so offensive that I had to destroy the rock.

Would I do something today? Sure -- but 2011 is NOT 1981. It was a different time, a less politically correct time.

What did Cain mean? What does it mean to be "insensitive to blacks", as opposed to "insensitive". Note he didn't say it was "insensitive", which would apply to all races, he specifically said it was 'insensitive' to "black people".

If I am being told that I am singling out black people for my insensitivity, to me I am being called a latent racist. I am being told that my insensitivity is targeted at a race, which is what racism is.

But I don't care that Cain might think I'm "insensitive" to blacks; the problem is his, and I just think it is too bad that he is troubled by my insensitivity.

But really, he has apologized, although now he's insisting that Perry is the only unacceptable candidate, so that's another problematic issue for him in my book.

On a more POSITIVE note though, I see he is tempering his attacks on the muslim faith:

Herman Cain's meeting last week with Imam Magid at the All-Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS) Center was a positive development in the national conversation about Islam. Cain's positive personal interaction with the Muslim leaders seems to have tempered his enthusiasm for unfounded conspiracy theories about Muslim Americans.
As I told people who attacked Perry for having a good working relationship with a moderate muslim Iman, you won't find a serious presidential candidate who agrees. Cain was the only one that looked like he might, but now we see he doesn't.
233 posted on 10/06/2011 1:53:35 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MNJohnnie
BTW, in case you still can't see what his remarks really meant, and how what he said hurts ALL republicans, look no further then “I think Herman Cain would be troubled by how many of the hardcore rightwing voters he needs have similar rocks.”

That is how our left-wing adversaries are using his statements.

Still, he apologized, and admitted he didn't know what he was talking about, so I guess I should drop it.

234 posted on 10/06/2011 1:55:45 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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