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Cain Says He ‘Would Not Be Comfortable’ As Perry's Running Mate
National Journal ^ | October 6, 2011 | Lindsey Boerma

Posted on 10/06/2011 10:35:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: beandog
I guess Gov. Perry could have stoned the rock to death.:)

Or maybe Perry is a dope dealer and likes the rock because it already is stoned. Makes about as much sense as anything else. ;)
201 posted on 10/06/2011 1:10:00 PM PDT by DTxAg
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To: MNJohnnie
No doubt position papers and policy speeches are coming -- as they will with the other candidates. Perry has a book "FED UP" -- with a forward by Newt Gingrich

Perry has quite loudly stated he wants lower taxes, less regulation and ligation. He wants less federal government oversight of states and a return to a more local control of education. He wants to make Washington D.C. as inconsequential as possible in our lives.

Many of the actions he's taken as governor show his commitment to exactly those goals -- as he is actively been fighting the feds on many of them and winning some.

If you're not happy knowing that 48% of jobs in the country were in Texas, I can't help that. It is a fact. The state of Texas has been a lab showing how less government has worked.

Legislation that pinned back the ears of trial lawyers has created a boom in medical personnel and facilities as they have swarmed into Texas. Buying health insurance across state lines would be a good thing. Let's open up that free market again.

States along with Texas are having a friendly competition to see who can bring businesses to their states -- Florida and Wisconsin (among others) have made a friendly climate and have watched businesses relocate to their states. Right to work and no state income tax are big pluses in some states. High tax states and states with union control and over regulation are losing as businesses leave, taking jobs and revenue to more friendly states.

Perry wants the border sealed. He wants federal control of our international border and national security laws enforced. He does not believe in amnesty. As president, Perry will not leave this as a problem to fester along the border or in border states or continue to watch it bleed across the country. If a worker program is on the table and the laws are enforced and the border is sealed and the drug cartels are killed off -- we are probably getting back to a normal way of life on the border. Also, all the federal give away programs that have encouraged citizens and illegals to drift to the Democratic Party will be viewed critically. Perry is for a conservative ascendancy not a continued slide toward socialism.

He believes in American exceptionalism and standing with our allies.

202 posted on 10/06/2011 1:10:16 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DTxAg

Now, you’ve done it. Expect to see a thread soon claiming that Perry is really a dope dealer, that’s why he likes open boarders.


203 posted on 10/06/2011 1:13:33 PM PDT by beandog (I am saddened by what I see)
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To: Carling

Exactly, but many are not looking at the reality on the ground. Red Meat rhetoric is everything for them, the facts, truth, and reality be damned.


204 posted on 10/06/2011 1:14:35 PM PDT by jgge
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To: Chasaway

WOW. I knew it was rough but those pics get the point across better than 10,000+++++ words.


205 posted on 10/06/2011 1:16:36 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MNJohnnie

Huh? Who was lying about him? He wrote a gushing piece about Romney in 2008 and I personally think he is angling to be Romney’s VP.

In any case, the only one I don’t like is Romney. I don’t think some of the others have much of a chance (Bachmann was my favorite, but she’s already over), but the only one I wouldn’t vote for is Romney.


206 posted on 10/06/2011 1:17:19 PM PDT by livius
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To: Chasaway

A picture is worth a thousand words but your commentaries are 100% correct :)


207 posted on 10/06/2011 1:18:41 PM PDT by jgge
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Saying stuff like this makes me thing Herm is not ready for prime time.

He's still my second choice, though.

208 posted on 10/06/2011 1:19:05 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: MNJohnnie

And Perry (to add to Post #202) wants ObamaCare OUT!


209 posted on 10/06/2011 1:19:43 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Carling

See Posts 191 & 197...

I’ve built fences.

I wouldn’t want to have to build ‘em there.

And I don’t know how much good it’d do if I did.


210 posted on 10/06/2011 1:19:43 PM PDT by Chasaway
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To: Servant of the Cross

May be Perry should bring some of these pictures to the debates and on the campaign trail just to show the futility of building a fence on the Texas-Mexican borders.


211 posted on 10/06/2011 1:20:22 PM PDT by jgge
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
But it has to be someone who I believe I can complement them in their job by being able to bring my skills to the table."

So is Cain saying he has no skills he could add to Rick Perry's skills, or is he saying Rick Perry is so racist that he wouldn't LET Cain bring his skills to the table? Whichever one is his reasoning for not wanting to be Perry's VP, it sounds like hogwash to me.

212 posted on 10/06/2011 1:20:33 PM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving so many whoppers.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You know, what's amazing is all of us who already know that a full-blown fence...over 1200 miles long...would be an extravagant waste and ultimately futile, are STILL stunned when we drive the border or see images of it.

But there are folks on this site, fueled by some extreme bitterness and/or bile, having never been within 1000 miles of the border, that know that somehow, that is what we need to be doing.

Factor in the steps Perry and Texas have taken to attempt to control it on their own, with Texans' money and with little to no help from the Feds.

Looked at it from that perspective, it amplifies his position that there is no one in the race currently with his experience dealing with this problem.

And if people would actually LOOK at it, they'd see how "pie-in-the-sky" some of the other candidates' positions are on the issue.

213 posted on 10/06/2011 1:26:31 PM PDT by Chasaway
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To: DTxAg
"That is a more vile negative word than the N word, and for him to leave it there for as long as he did before I hear that they finally painted over it is just plain insensitive towards a lot of black people in this country."

Herb Cain doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. Perry couldn't have painted over the rock had he wanted to since he didn't even own the property. Cain would have been better off acknowledging he needed more information about this before sliming Perry with the race card. This is basically the same thing as Barry Obama's "Cambridge Police acted stupidly" comment. The only reason it is being defended on FR is because of a handful of anti-Perry posters, and Herb Cain's own ignorance about it before opening his yap.

I also like how Herb is allowed to apologize for this, but Perry isn't allowed to apologize for his "you don't have a heart" gaffe, but that's for another time and place.

214 posted on 10/06/2011 1:27:26 PM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Tell you what. I will take you seriously when you ask Rick Perry who's VP he would be.

Sorry but this is exactly the same thing I heard, and bought, in 2000. I HAD to back GW Bush to stop McCain. Only GW Bush could beat Gore. We could ask no questions about Bush's positions we had to support him. To question Bush's postions or his records or his background was to be pro McCain or Pro Gore.

Sorry Perry is going to have to earn Conservative support this time. He cannot demand it with this sort of Cult of Personality campaigning.

Conservatives have been fooled by these sorts tactics before, we will not be buffaloed again.

215 posted on 10/06/2011 1:27:51 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: jgge; smoothsailing; shield

Pinging you to Post 233.

I keep forgetting. :(


216 posted on 10/06/2011 1:28:05 PM PDT by Chasaway
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To: MNJohnnie

You’re welcome.


217 posted on 10/06/2011 1:29:17 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: jgge; smoothsailing; shield

233 should be 213!

DAMmit!


218 posted on 10/06/2011 1:30:32 PM PDT by Chasaway
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To: motoman

Perry has actually done something about border security, too; Texas has spent $400 million reinforcing the border.

But I agree that whoever is the candidate has got to have a rational approach on dealing with the backlog of people who are technically illegal but have lived here for most of their lives. I think Perry’s big error was that he pitched it as compassionate instead of making the very good economic and social case that can be made for it. The bill passed the TX legislature by something like 176 to 4, incidentally, so you can see he wasn’t the only one!

I find this attempt by Romney forces to smear Perry on this to be particularly disgusting. Not only does Romney not live in a border state, but he’s giving a wink-wink, nudge-nudge sort of permission to a really ugly xenophobia and nativist impulse that seems to lurk here and there. In other words, as with everything with Romney, there’s deniability - he doesn’t actually have to say it, just imply it and fools will rush out to say the ugly words. Sadly, this is going to have an impact on Hispanic voters, who are by no means all illegal immigrants (or they wouldn’t be voters), because nobody seems to care about the millions of non-Hispanic illegal immigrants (Africans, Russians, Chinese, Middle Easterners) who are here and this sudden concern about “illegals” comes across as real bigotry against Hispanics.


219 posted on 10/06/2011 1:31:02 PM PDT by livius
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To: Carling
I also like how Herb is allowed to apologize for this, but Perry isn't allowed to apologize for his "you don't have a heart" gaffe, but that's for another time and place.

Was thinking the same thing earlier today.
220 posted on 10/06/2011 1:35:48 PM PDT by DTxAg
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