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Perry's haul for the long haul
Politico ^ | 10/5/11 | Maggie Haberman

Posted on 10/05/2011 9:07:44 PM PDT by DRey

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To: Kartographer

Just read that Townhall has posted a letter sent to all the candidates inviting them to a conservative forum debate, to circumvent the media firing squad format. I certainly believe they should accept. It will help them all, I should think, and at least for once to pass by the jerks with but a hat tip. ( This includes FOX, whose worm has turned for Romney.)


121 posted on 10/05/2011 10:45:16 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: RitaOK
Hispanics and La Raza are two different things. Like White people and the KKK. You either attempt to do what's right for all as individuals and uphold the law or you do what's wrong and pander to racial supremacist groups. We know which direction Perry went.


122 posted on 10/05/2011 10:46:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: af_vet_rr
Make no mistake: Cain's inexperience will never be a selling point. The "Great Recession" and the most divided US since the Civil War is no time to bring in a political greenhorn. The Dems would eat Herman Cain alive if the GOP establishment didn't get to him first.

As for Perry's election history, I think it's quite silly for you to minimize his defeating Kay Bailout. She was an established candidate, a big name, and had the full support of the powers of darkness behind her and still couldn't beat him. Kay Bailout was a much stronger candidate than Romney, and Perry hacked his way through their debate and beat her fair and square in the primary. She fought dirty and he beat the witch fair and square. A win is a win.
123 posted on 10/05/2011 10:47:44 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: smoothsailing

“And it is cute to imagine the pizza man in the White House.”

?????

Why don’t we call him the BA, Mathematics Man, or the Masters, Computer Science Man, or the Navy Ballistics Analyst Man? Because all those are accurate.

The fact is, Herman Cain is the best-educated, smartest (because, um, science is harder than law), most successful candidate in terms of making his own money at a real-world job, than we’ve seen in either party. In YEARS.


124 posted on 10/05/2011 10:47:57 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: af_vet_rr

I’m not arguing that he didn’t take the last debate as seriously as he should have. We’re on the same page there. I’m saying it won’t happen again. If it does, he deserves to lose it all.


125 posted on 10/05/2011 10:51:07 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Blue Ink

We can call him whatever you want. You mentioned three, I mentioned one. Do you have a favorite?


126 posted on 10/05/2011 10:51:31 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: RitaOK
Whoa, there pardner. How many of these fine, high principled candidates ever had a Hispanic majority and La Raza among their constituency to contend with? Reality is a heck of a deal and Rick was dealt it.

If the only criteria for whether Rick should have attended the La Raza national conference last year was that they were a part of his "constituency", does this mean that Rick should give speeches to the KKK, Black Panthers, and FLDS since those groups are represented in Texas well, and therefore a part of his "constituency?"

And since when did La Raza members start supporting Republicans?

And Rick didn't take away the La Raza voting block from Obama - Obama put a La Raza member on the Supreme Court of the United States. Rick has a lot more speeches to give to La Raza and perhaps a few nominations before they'll support him.
127 posted on 10/05/2011 10:52:28 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

I think “undefeated” is something to be proud of, yes. It’s a legitimate and noteworthy accomplishment, no matter how you spin it.


128 posted on 10/05/2011 10:52:42 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey

Have a heart!


129 posted on 10/05/2011 10:56:23 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Well look, Texas has all the ingredients to be California, but is not. Rick has a ten year run at sustaining the differences proving conservative principles, and left no democrat standing in office at the state level, or in committee appointments. Texas Monthly is no friend to Perry, but even they credit him as wielding power like no one since LBJ himself. The personalities are pecking material but are small, cheap, exaggerated and will hold no weight whatsoever in this titan like contest. Let’s watch awhile.


130 posted on 10/05/2011 10:56:32 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: DRey
As for Perry's election history, I think it's quite silly for you to minimize his defeating Kay Bailout. She was an established candidate, a big name, and had the full support of the powers of darkness behind her and still couldn't beat him.

She also ran a half-assed campaign, and of course she's Kay Bailey Hutchison. It's best she is retiring, because she would have been sunk in the primaries. I kind of wish she was sticking it out though, because I would have enjoyed seeing her defeated by the Tea Party movement.
131 posted on 10/05/2011 10:56:57 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Blue Ink

He’s the pizza man because that’s his claim to expertise. That’s why he says he needs to be president, because he was a Chief Executive of a pizza company and can be a good Chief Executive of our country. Pizza and country. Like apples and oranges.


132 posted on 10/05/2011 10:57:19 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Blue Ink

Naah. The Perrybots would rather have a blow-dried buffoon career politician instead.


133 posted on 10/05/2011 10:58:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: teg_76

Hmm?


134 posted on 10/05/2011 10:58:33 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey

The last person we need going up against Obama in the debates is a bumbling idiot stupid enough to tell his base they don’t have a heart.


135 posted on 10/05/2011 10:59:33 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: af_vet_rr
We're in agreement there. I thoroughly enjoyed Rick beating her, and any subsequent defeats by the Tea Party would have just been delicious.

If you don't mind my asking, what did you fly, and how long ago?
136 posted on 10/05/2011 11:00:35 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Instead of Romney? You bet. I’d take a blow-dryed gorrilla.


137 posted on 10/05/2011 11:02:05 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: teg_76

You would prefer Romney? We wouldn’t know which was Obama.


138 posted on 10/05/2011 11:03:03 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey

No, I would prefer Cain, Gingrich, Santorum, and Bachmann over Perry. We don’t have to settle.


139 posted on 10/05/2011 11:09:51 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: DRey

He’s the only one up there on the stage that personally insulted his base.

Can you imagine what the media will do to him if he gives one of those bumbling answers in a debate against Obama?

He’s the worst debator of the remaining candidates, and his immigration stance and defense of it is just a non starter with too many people, not just Republicans.

This Dream Act has very little support among the American public, and he played racial politics with it (”it doesn’t matter what your last name is”, “you don’t have a heart”, “come here through no fault of your own”). There was too much of this crap in the Bush administration and Perry seems to want to double down on it.


140 posted on 10/05/2011 11:14:16 PM PDT by teg_76
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