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To: Tublecane
Whatever’s selected is selected, and what’s morally bad for the social organism is fine and dandy for the weak and stupid.

The statement, "whatever's selected is selected" is a meaningless tautology.

And do you not see the impassable gap between "whatever’s selected is selected, and what’s morally bad.."?

I would like to see you validly derive a moral "ought" merely from what "is". Go ahead. Give your best shot. Otherwise you don't get to presuppose or smuggle in any "morality".

Cordially,

111 posted on 03/21/2012 6:33:05 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond

“And do you not see the impassable gap between ‘whatever’s selected is selected, and what’s morally bad..’?”

Do you lack the reading comprehension skills to see that I was making the same Hume’s Guillotine argument as you? Or was I merely the nearest convenient straw man available in your rush to beat the dead is/ought horse? Seek elswhere.

It was the previous poster who implied a moral import to evolution by suggesting natural selection isn’t anymore in operation because the “lower” outbreed the “educated” and “successful” classes. I took the opposite position.

“I would like to see you validly derive a moral ‘ought’ merely from what “is”. Go ahead. Give your best shot.”

There’s at least one. We call it “might makes right.” Though I admit it really is a sort of anti-morality.

“The statement, ‘whatever’s selected is selected’ is a meaningless tautology”

Tautological, yes, but not meaningless, especially rhetorically


114 posted on 03/22/2012 8:09:06 AM PDT by Tublecane
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