How Conservative Candidates Can Give Us a RINO Nominee

American Thinker ^ | October 5, 2011 | Selwyn Duke

[neverdem]

While I certainly understand the frustration of those who complain of RINO primary rise, it's important to accept the reality of how it happens. It is not, as some would say, a matter of the "Republican Party giving us another John McCain." Nominees aren't appointed; they're elected. It is not the result of a New World Order conspiracy bent on keeping the Ron Pauls of the world from power. Voters may sometimes have chips on their shoulders; there are no controlling chips in their brains. Of course, the media can and do shape public opinion, but they only truly sing in unison when their candidate (read: any Democrat) has his hide on the line during the general election.

To truly understand why a RINO (Republican in Name Only) will likely win the nomination, we only have to consider the following poll numbers: Mitt Romney, 25 percent; Rick Perry, 16; Herman Cain, 16; Ron Paul, 11; Newt Gingrich, 7; and Michele Bachmann, 7. What is notable about this list? Romney, widely viewed as the most liberal of the major contenders, leads the pack. Is this because the Republican base now reflects the Massachusetts GOP?

Or is it because too many are dividing up the traditionalist-vote pie?

Note that every listed candidate but Romney is seen, generally speaking, as being of the right. Of course, many will point out that Perry and Gingrich are RINOs as well. But the critical factor is perception. The Texas governor is largely viewed as a conservative who has had dalliances with the Democrat devil; Gingrich is considered a conservative with too much personal and Beltway baggage; Paul is seen as a rightist libertarian with some outside-the-box views. But it's one thing to be a conservative who occasionally attends a liberal masquerade party.

It's quite another to...

[neverdem]

Please God, heaven forfend another RINO!

[napscoordinator]

I know and the top two candidates are both the worst. Thank God Cain is at least tied for second....that at least gives conservatives a great chance.

[ari-freedom]

“And since I want to make the best choice for our culture, I’ll support the best candidate with a chance to win. As far as the primaries go, this means I favor one Republican over the others.”

Problem is that nobody knows who that one is. So let’s just test everybody and let’s see who rises to the challenge in the end!

[nathanbedford]

... when lamenting our election choices, what are we really complaining about?

Our fellow man.

Bingo!

Every time you hear a commentator or a politician complaining about "Washington" know that these people are giving the electorate what it wants. If the country has $14 trillion worth of debt to pay for Social Security and Medicare it is because any politician who denied the electorate these entitlements while telling them the truth about the debt would be out of office. If the truth were otherwise Ron Paul would have been a president long ago.

Now that the reckoning is upon us we will continue to deceive ourselves and say that we are in this mess because of politicians. We will have Republicans blaming Democrats and liberals while conservatives blame rinos. The author has it right, in the long run you must win the cultural war to win the elections. He might have added that in the long run you cannot win the cultural war if you lose the demographics war. This is undoubtedly why the author wants to stop immigration altogether.

The problem is not in the stars but in ourselves.

[paudio]

The author simply points out the obvious: in the field where there are only 1-2 RINOS but 5-6 conservatives, and there is no clear cut majority, it’s not surprising that we end up with a RINO. The conservatives need to focus on 1-2 candidates soon.

[ari-freedom]

seems they are going with Cain instead of Michele or Santorum. Maybe those 2 will drop out soon. Not quite sure what Huntsman is doing and Gary seems he wants to be the secular, younger version of Ron Paul so I guess he’ll stay for the ride.

[lentulusgracchus]

The conservatives need to focus on 1-2 candidates soon.

I can't see Palin staying out. With Michele Bachmann's campaign in trouble, Palin might jump in and try to start a stampede among the conservatives to overreach the RiNO.

I think that's her strategy -- stay out, conserve her money, limp-leg the Mediabot calumnies, and then join at the latest opportunity possible, all the while taking the risk that the support will go elsewhere and commit to, say, Perry or Cain.

[Ronin]

A fantasy for a Wednesday evening...

Cain, Perry and Sarah agree to meet to decide which of the three will challenge Romney for the nomination. To tell the truth, I think that most FReepers have their preference among the three — but I also think that most FReepers could support one of those three with considerable enthusiasm.

How to do it? Simple.

The three meet in Vegas for one hour of nationally televised five card stud poker.

Each candidate brings $500 to the table. If they go bust, they’re out. If all three still have chips at the end of the hour, who ever has the most chips is the winner and the other two agree to wholeheartedly support his/her bid for the nomination and, of course, the general election.

How about it? What could be more American than that?

[Happy Rain]

It's all in the hands of the Tea Party—and no person or pollster can predict their actions though some claim they can.
Just know the Tea Party WILL NOT allow a RINO nominee and WILL NOT allow an Obama second term.

Seems even some conservatives have forgotten the massive tectonic shift in American politics the Tea Party ONLY STARTED last November.
Gotta have faith in the TP brothers and sisters—I do.

[Wolfie]

Ah yes, the clarion call of “hold your nose and vote Replublican at all costs” is starting to sound.

[ballplayer]

Obama now admits in an Interview that people are not better off since he was elected President and like the suckers they are the Republicans bite at the setup. The democrats are Planning to Run against the Republicans as Far right Wingers,you know the People who Go to work everyday,pay your taxes,go by the rules,Stand and salute The flag when it Passes by,THOSE extremists,so when I hear Fox News Reporting this, I hear,we better nominate a RINO.
This is what happens when for years the Republican Party puts their tales Between their Legs and does not stand up for Traditional Americans But becomes BIPARTISAN and compromises their Principals, now we no longer Have any.
Traditional Americans have been sold out,told to hold your Nose get what you can Now,we can work toward a Conservative Later.What has that gotten us? Look at Wall st. today,that is what you get,Romney is what you get,Obama a Marxist is what you get,admitting he is Destroying the Country and getting ready to spend a Billion Dollars on Ads telling you its All your Fault,and the Best the Republicans can offer is ,LOOK Obama is admitting we are worse off!
You would think they would say Americans who Pay the Bills our responsible citizens and Pay their taxes ,worship their God ,fight and Die for their Country,donate for the Poor and sick ARE NOT RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS!!THEY ARE AMERICANS That have been sold out
If you think the people down on Wall St. in New York and in all the Other Cities across the Country demonstrating are the Real America show me the Interview where one of them says I love My country,show me one holding an American Flag High and saying we need to get back to Personal RESPONSIBILITY,hard work and to getting rid of Lying marxist Politicians preying on the Ignorance and stupidity of the American People,it would be nice if one of the parties did NOT appeal to the Lowest of Human emotions Jealousy,envy and Greed.

[ballplayer]

according to a CBS poll today Cain Is now tied for first with Romney

[napscoordinator]

Thank you for the OUTSTANDING news. I appreciate it so much. Getting rid of Ricardo Perry and Romney would be so sweet. I can’t bring myself to even hold my nose for those two frauds. Perry and his illegal alien love just kills me. Romney is just bad all around. It stinks that it is taking this long to FINALLY get a REAL conservative in the lead. If the conservatives don’t pick either Cain, Palin, Bachmann or Santorum than they deserve four more years of Obama. I cannot vote for liberals Perry and Romney. It just is not going to happen.

[ballplayer]

She has Said from the Start she wanted to see if there is someone carrying the True Conservative message in the Race. Well who do we have Left? Cain,Bachman,Santorum,are these the ones we want to carry the Conservative Banner?
I like the way Cain sounds,but I think at this point I would like to see Sarah run,at Least once in My Life I would like to have a Candidate who would not Apologize for America,and be Proud to FIGHT for TRADITIONAL Americans and to hell with the republican estabishment

[behzinlea]

Oddly enough, although Romney is unacceptable to many core conservatives, he is viewed as relatively nonthreatening to dispirited moderates and soft Democrats who came out to vote for Obama in 2008--and for many of the same reasons. They are more likely to sit at home on their hands this election cycle if the race is between Romney and Obama, and that could help Republicans down ticket in swing districts.

A "scary" Perry, Christie, Bachmann, Gingrich, or Palin candidacy on the other hand, would likely fire up a lot of this dispirited crew to come out and vote--not because they are happy with Obama, but because they feel compelled to register their resistance to the "scary" Republican candidate. That could hurt Republican candidates down ticket.

Romney might be the candidate no one really passionately wants, but who ends up winning for that very reason.

Cain is about the only other viable "non-scary" Republican candidate in the race, but he is unlikely to generate much money from big donors. It might be a smart strategic move for Romney to pick the likeable "non-scary" Cain as his VP.

Again, I will vote with pleasure for WHICHEVER Republican candidate is still standing at the end of the primary road. Anything else would be a vote for Obama, and he infinitely worse than the worst Republican alternative.

[ngat]

“... when lamenting our election choices, what are we really complaining about?
Our fellow WOMEN.

Bingo!

Every time you hear a commentator or a politician complaining about “Washington” know that these people are giving the WOMEN electorate what it wants. If the country has $14 trillion worth of debt to pay for Social Security and Medicare it is because any politician who denied the WOMEN electorate these entitlements while telling them the truth about the debt would be out of office...”

One tiny little fact that needs recognition here.

[ballplayer]

Obama now admits in an Interview that people are not better off since he was elected President and like the suckers they are the Republicans bite at the setup. The democrats are Planning to Run against the Republicans as Far right Wingers,you know the People who Go to work everyday,pay your taxes,go by the rules,Stand and salute The flag when it Passes by,THOSE extremists,so when I hear Fox News Reporting this, I hear,we better nominate a RINO.
This is what happens when for years the Republican Party puts their tales Between their Legs and does not stand up for Traditional Americans But becomes BIPARTISAN and compromises their Principals, now we no longer Have any.
Traditional Americans have been sold out,told to hold your Nose get what you can Now,we can work toward a Conservative Later.What has that gotten us? Look at Wall st. today,that is what you get,Romney is what you get,Obama a Marxist is what you get,admitting he is Destroying the Country and getting ready to spend a Billion Dollars on Ads telling you its All your Fault,and the Best the Republicans can offer is ,LOOK Obama is admitting we are worse off!
You would think they would say Americans who Pay the Bills our responsible citizens and Pay their taxes ,worship their God ,fight and Die for their Country,donate for the Poor and sick ARE NOT RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS!!THEY ARE AMERICANS That have been sold out
If you think the people down on Wall St. in New York and in all the Other Cities across the Country demonstrating are the Real America show me the Interview where one of them says I love My country,show me one holding an American Flag High and saying we need to get back to Personal RESPONSIBILITY,hard work and to getting rid of Lying marxist Politicians preying on the Ignorance and stupidity of the American People,it would be nice if one of the parties did NOT appeal to the Lowest of Human emotions Jealousy,envy and Greed.

[Coldwater Creek]

I’m with you. If Spot the Dog is the Republican nominee, he has my vote.

[elli1]

And I'll hold fast to this principle come the general election. This means supporting the Republican nominee whoever he may be.

i.e. Romney. And that isn't going to work because you have to give people a reason to go to the polls. And Obama-lite isn't a reason.

Like it or not, the presidential slate is the major election draw. Romney's coattails are going to be threadbare. So all estimations of congressional & senate seats gained are going to have to be dialed back, way back. That's because hardly anyone is enthused about Romney. Hell, even the 'Gerald Ford wing' woulda' rather had Chris Christie. I'm afraid that we're going to have to work like hell just to hang onto the seats we have now if Romney is the nominee.

[Vevey]

“Ricardo Perry?” Please get your head out of your posterior. The country is swimming in trillions of dollars in debt and the folks who elected the people who did this were not illegal immigrants you jackwagon!

The people who caused this mess are you...Those who can vote but confuse ideological puruty with what is better for the country. You think a President McCain would have appointed a Sottemeyer or a Kagan. I can forgive liberals their ignorance but I am sick of so-called conservatives saying, in essence, “if I can’t get my ideologically pure candidate, screw the country I won’t vote RINO.” You’re the reason we have Obama. Your rabid and ill-informed xenophobia has only hastened this countries decline. Thanks a lot. Reading posts like yours sickens me. Have you no idea what is at stake in 2012? Let me be clear lest you think I am a RINO, if there were one Republican I believe would be best in the White House (of current or perspective candidates) it would be Palin. I was touting her before 2008 when you were probably posting about the end of the US as a result of the proposed Bush amnesty.Well done. Thanks a million...or should I say trillion as your inability to support the anti-Obama resulted in the near ruination of this country. But don’t worry, with your attitude (and others like you) you can get exactly what you want, the re-election of Obama, total immigrant amnesty, higher taxes, less freedom, liberty, and opportunity and the continuing decline of this once great nation. However, you can smile as the IRS takes your last dollar and tell them you wouldn’t even consider voting for Ricardo Perry. You are beneath my contempt.