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House advances Hoover Dam electricity bill
Las Vegas Sun ^ | Monday, Oct. 3, 2011 | 10:10 p.m. | Karoun Demirjian

Posted on 10/04/2011 8:03:03 AM PDT by ¢ommon ¢ents

The House passed a bill to extend the allocation of electricity created by the Hoover Dam for another 50 years Monday afternoon without any objection, and well in advance of the deadline to divvy up the output from the regional power center.

The deal under which Nevada, California and Arizona share power produced at Hoover Dam is set to expire in 2017; Monday’s bill would preserve it until 2067.

It would also create a new category of power recipient: under the new contract, the participating states would agree to take 5 percent of their allocations -- for a total pool of about 100 megawatts -- that would be made available to tribes, irrigation districts, and rural cooperatives that were previously unable to tap electricity coming from the Hoover Dam.

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: electricity; hooverdam; pork
OK. I'm from Florida. I don't know anything about this. It seems routine. It looks like it passed on a voice vote only. I'm guessing my Congress Critter voted for it, or didn't oppose it enough to call for a recorded vote.

However, I'm suspicious when Senate Majority Harry Reid features something in a press release and sends out a tweet bragging about it.

So, can someone tell me, is this a good thing that deserved bipartisan support? Or was my Congressman (and the House Republicans) doing the "I'll scratch your back, so you'll scratch mine later" thing with Reid?

1 posted on 10/04/2011 8:03:07 AM PDT by ¢ommon ¢ents
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents
Typically, government-built power generators supply power to electric co-ops. The last time that was challenged was in the 1950s when Ike was in the WH and Georgia Power tried to blackmail the administration into giving the supply from a new dam to its parent company, Southern Company.
2 posted on 10/04/2011 8:11:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

Why not allocate the power based on who values it the most?

Free-market pricing?

Use the profits to build more dams.


3 posted on 10/04/2011 8:16:45 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents
I'm suspicious when Senate Majority Harry Reid features something in a press release and sends out a tweet bragging about it.

I suspect that, in this case, it only means that a lot of his constituents benefit from the cheap Hoover Dam electricity. As do the constituents of a lot of other congress-critters of both parties.

4 posted on 10/04/2011 8:28:52 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Given enough time, the primary function of any bureaucracy becomes the employment of its employees.)
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To: Beelzebubba
At least two problems with that approach:

1. The amount of water that has been sucked out of the Colorado River has drawn down the hydrostatic head to an alarming level. Conclusion: soon there won't be any electricity to allocate.

2. Can we all spell “Environmental Impact Statement” in the context of a new dam anywhere in this country?

5 posted on 10/04/2011 8:30:39 AM PDT by Pecos (O.K., joke's over. Time to bring back the Constitution.)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents
There are those that think the river needs to be re-allocated.

Given the drought and the tree ring studies, some think that the original allocations based on a short history of observed flows is wrong.

This issue is complicated by the fact that in the early days California was allowed to use water that really belonged to the upper Colorado states because those states didn't need it at the time. California had to give up some of this "borrowed" water in recent years. That created a lot of problems between San Diego(golf courses) and the Imperial Irrigation District(agriculture).

Consequently, others say that those wanting to re-allocate really want to steal water from the upper Colorado states.

6 posted on 10/04/2011 8:35:53 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents
California should get no power from Hoover dam.

The power compacts were made when California was still ethnically American. It is now headed to being a Mexican state, and the American people owe them nothing - especially not power generated by taxpayer funded dams on the Colorado.

All power from Hoover, Glen Canyon, Palo Verde Nuclear, Delta Power should go to state's that are not occupied by foreign populaces claiming to be "American" when in fact they are there illegally.

7 posted on 10/04/2011 8:46:37 AM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Pecos

1. The amount of water that has been sucked out of the Colorado River has drawn down the hydrostatic head to an alarming level. Conclusion: soon there won’t be any electricity to allocate.


A free market handles this fine. Determine what amount of water is appropriate to turn into juice, and sell that juice to the highest bidders.

It’s a great way to avoid shortages and to encourage efficient conservation.


8 posted on 10/04/2011 8:59:08 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Regulator
Mexico gets a million and a half acre feet of water from the colorado river annually, but this can be revised up or down based on the treaty and river flows.

The treaty covers the Colorado river and the lower Rio Grande.

9 posted on 10/04/2011 9:00:28 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
I give up; what does lower Colorado water allocation have to do with the interstate power compacts?

Because Mexico has treaty rights to water, somehow that legitimizes power consumption by illegals?

10 posted on 10/04/2011 9:31:52 AM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

Water levels would have dropped so low that the generators would not have been able to run next year had not enormous precipitation come to the rockies this past winter and spring.

Last I read, the extra water added 30 feet to the water levels behind the dam.

But the dam was down 120 feet.


11 posted on 10/04/2011 10:20:44 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Regulator
I give up too. I can't imagine why someone would object to illegals buying electricity generated by water but not mention electricity generated by coal, or wind.

And what about gasoline? Or Budweiser? Or bread?

Not to mention the HEW costs associated with illegals. Or the criminal justice costs of illegals.

Wierd

12 posted on 10/04/2011 11:06:54 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Beelzebubba

My only point was that if there is no commodity, the method by which it is bought/sold/distributed is irrelevant.


13 posted on 10/04/2011 11:27:08 AM PDT by Pecos (O.K., joke's over. Time to bring back the Constitution.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
but not mention electricity generated by coal, or wind

That's easy. The hydroelectric power is the result of U.S. taxpayer funds and represents scarce resources developed for the exclusive use of the American citizenry, not a foreign and alien invader populace.

And I did mention coal, because that's what the Delta plant runs on as well as the Navajo generating plant in Page, Arizona near the Glen Canyon dam.

Don't misunderstand me. I think no power from the Western states (Arizona, Colorado, Utah and Nevada) should go to California, for a variety of reasons, illegals being just one of them.

A similar view was expressed by the corporation commission of Arizona last year in response to Antonio Villaraigosa's threat to cancel all contracts with AZ over SB1070: they said fine, we'll just stop sending the electrons.

Villaraigosa just shut up.

14 posted on 10/04/2011 7:29:04 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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