[Wonder Warthog]

One hopes that enough voters actually recognize all those points.

[Peet]

One hopes that enough voters actually recognize all those points.

If I may expand on your point, Warthog, when VDH said "A sadder but wiser electorate in 2012 simply won’t believe that any candidate — Democrat or Republican — can cool the planet or stop the seas from rising. Barack Obama taught us that — and a lot more besides," I'm not buying it. People who fall for the Hope-N-Change snakeoil and think zerO is going to pay their mortgages and put gas in their cars, are likely going to keep right on voting stupid.

I fear there's a lot more of them than a lot of us here think...