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To: DesertRhino

I always thought people were Conservative because they were perceptive. Posts on this thread and others show just how many so called Conservatives will grab the sh!t covered baton of media lies and disinformation and run with it.

You are absolutely spot on. Amanda Manson is a sociopath. It was obvious from the start of the trial with her Damien the Omen demonic smile and her whacked out antics-—soaking up the attention while she was on trial for her life.

How do you say Helter Skelter in Italian?


42 posted on 10/03/2011 9:27:36 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their Moonbats)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Thats what surprises me too. She has a far weaker defense than OJ ever dreamed of. And theres a nutty stampede to free her. I cannot see for the life of me how someone could think she wasn’t involved.

The Italian PD probably doesn’t do DNA up to the standards of American women who watch CSI, but it seems like after a few weeks, they took notice of the fact that everything Amanda said was quickly shown to be a lie. Then they looked at her more carefully.
I think they got the right ones. Amanda, her BF, and the guy from Ivory Coast. Doped up, tried to force Meredith, and it went bad. Pretty simple if you think about it.

And i still think it’s telling that the other two surviving female apartment mates think she was involved. Neither has said a word to defend amanda’s character, or to doubt her involvement.


47 posted on 10/03/2011 9:46:40 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Electric Graffiti

These are just a few things that I’ve seen mentioned… I’ve just paraphrased them to make them a bit more readable, and I’ve left out most of the DNA evidence except for one piece, and the reason I left that in (about the knife with the DNA on it) is because his excuse seemed to be extremely contrived…

These are the things that jumped right out at me, and they don’t seem to be the result of someone under bright light for 11 hours straight… these are dramatic changes in alibis over time.

This just stinks of 2 people trying to cobble together an excuse, and doing it poorly. Why? Why do this? Why not tell the truth?

Amanda accused Diya Lumumba of murdering Meredith at the cottage. It’s true that two of Amanda’s such statements were thrown out by the Italian Supreme Court. However, Amanda repeated the accusation, in a note that she wrote to the police on 6 November. This note was not thrown out by the Italian Supreme Court, and it was admitted as evidence. In her 6 November note Amanda claimed to have seen Diya Lumumba at the basketball court at Piazza Grimana; and outside her front door. He was actually at his bar.

Amanda’s supporters claim that she confessed to a lesser role in Meredith’s murder, and blamed Diya Lumumba, because she had been “smacked around” or put under pressure by the police. But the real reason she had to say she was at the cottage was because she was informed that Raffaele Sollecito was no longer providing her with an alibi. Raffaele had been confronted with phone records, and was now claiming that she was not with him the whole evening, and that she had only returned at 1.00 am. Amanda did not attempt to refute Raffaele’s claim, but now admitted that she had been at the cottage.

(Incidentally, Raffaele was also claiming that he had lied, because he had believed Amanda’s version of what happened and not thought about the inconsistencies. He is acknowledging that Amanda’s version had inconsistencies.)

If it had been true that Amanda had been “smacked around” by the police during questioning, why haven’t her lawyers ever filed a complaint? It was very telling that Amanda dropped her allegation of being hit by the police at her recent court hearing, and instead just claimed she had been put under pressure.

Amanda claimed to have slept in at Raffaele’s until the next morning. However, her mobile records show that this was not so. Amanda turned on her mobile at approximately at 5.32 am. The same three witnesses who have repeatedly lied, Amanda Knox, Raffaele Sollecito and Rudy Guede, have all been placed at the crime scene.

Raffaele Sollecito first claimed in an interview with Kate Mansey from the Sunday Mirror that he and Amanda Knox were at a friend’s party on the night of the murder. It would have been obviously a tad difficult for Sollecito to find any witnesses who had attended an imaginary party to provide him and Knox with an alibi. This alibi was predictably abandoned very quickly.

Sollecito then claimed that he was his apartment with Amanda Knox. After that, he came up with a third alibi. He claimed that he was alone at his apartment and that Knox had gone out from 9pm to 1am. Both Sollecito and Knox gave completely different accounts of where they were, who they were with and what they doing on the night of the murder. These weren’t small inconsistencies.

Sollecito and Knox told the postal police that he had called the police before the postal police had turned up at the cottage and were waiting for them. Sollecito later admitted that this was not true and that he had lied because he had believed Amanda Knox’s version of what had happened.

Knox and Sollecito said they couldn’t remember most of what happened on the night of the murder, because they had smoked cannabis. Must have been really good stuff.

Sollecito claimed that he had spoken to his father at 11pm. Phone records show that there was no telephone conversation at this time. Sollecito’s father called him a couple of hours earlier at 8.40pm.

He also claimed that he was surfing the Internet from 11pm to 1am. The Kercher’s lawyer, Franco Maresca, pointed out that credible witnesses had shattered Sollecito’s alibi for the night of the murder. Sollecito still maintains he was home that night, working on his computer, but computer specialists have testified that his computer was not used for an eight-hour period on the night of Meredith’s murder

He then claimed that he had slept until 10pm the next day. However, he used his computer at 5.32am and turned on his mobile phone at 6.02am. (The Italian Supreme Court remarked that his night was “sleepless” to say the least.)

Lie ten. When Sollecito heard that the scientific police had found Meredith’s DNA on the double DNA knife in his apartment. He told a cock and bull story about accidentally pricking Meredith’s hand whilst cooking at his apartment. He said: “The fact that Meredith’s DNA is on my kitchen knife is because once, when we were all cooking together, I accidentally pricked her hand.’’ Meredith had never been to Sollecito’s apartment. It’s highly telling that Sollecito wasn’t surprised that the forensic police had found Meredith’s DNA on the double DNA knife in his apartment. He knew Meredith’s DNA was on the blade, which is why he made up the silly cock and bull story. He was attempting to explain the presence of Meredith’s DNA on the blade, but in doing so, he further incriminated himself and Amanda Knox.

Sollecito’s lawyers claim that he lied out of confusion and fear. However, Sollecito lied from the very first time he spoke to the police when he wasn’t a suspect. His lies cannot be attributed to confusion and fear.


51 posted on 10/03/2011 10:03:17 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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