Posted on 10/03/2011 12:42:33 PM PDT by Baladas
In November 1963, the conservative political establishment including Dwight Eisenhower, Gen. Lucius D. Clay, Bill Robinson of the Herald Tribune, Augusta’s Cliff Roberts and Slats Slater met at New York's Waldorf-Astoria, concerned about the bandwagon developing for Barry Goldwater. They were anxious to discuss “moderate alternatives,” including Pennsylvania's Gov. William Scranton, Henry Cabot Lodge and Michigan Gov. George Romney.
This last week, a new political establishment made up of hedge-fund managers, Republican donors, industrialists, a personal investment guru and other billionaires, mostly based in New York and former Bush employees and family members, including Barbara Bush, gathered or spoke together to find an alternative to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
Barbara Bush?
And they came up with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.
Who could possibly be more of an establishment politician than straight-as-a-gate Mitt Romney? What did Romney do to turn the eastern establishment against him? Support "cut, cap and balance"? But some in this group, including the Bush family’s loyal maestro, Karl Rove, had also looked to Paul Ryan as the Romney substitute.
Is it possible that Romney’s only offense to this establishment is that he is a Mormon? Does this attitude pervade the entire Republican Party? Friday night on "Cavuto," Neil asked Southern Baptist preacher Mike Huckabee if he would vote for Mitt Romney.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Seems we pose a chance if we pose a threat. You bingo on the knock out punch being “divide to conquer”. Hope we get a leader to take us through to the nominee. Sure sounds chaotic now. The debates and the media, for whom they are singularly designed, are out of control and the tool to the chaos. Control of the debates, the message, the interview venues of our candidates needs to be crafted to benefit us and not a circular firing squad. This would require a collaborative effort of the candidates and RNC.
Seems we pose a chance if we pose a threat. You bingo on the knock out punch being “divide to conquer”. Hope we get a leader to take us through to the nominee. Sure sounds chaotic now. The debates and the media, for whom they are singularly designed, are out of control and the tool to the chaos. Control of the debates, the message, the interview venues of our candidates needs to be crafted to benefit us and not a circular firing squad. This would require a collaborative effort of the candidates and RNC.
No, his primary offense is that he is unable to adequately con the unwashed right-wing base into voting for him. Hence the need to jettison him to try and find someone who can.
Seems we pose a chance if we pose a threat. You bingo on the knock out punch being “divide to conquer”. Hope we get a leader to take us through to the nominee. Sure sounds chaotic now. The debates and the media, for whom they are singularly designed, are out of control and the tool to the chaos. Control of the debates, the message, the interview venues of our candidates needs to be crafted to benefit us and not a circular firing squad. This would require a collaborative effort of the candidates and RNC.
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GOP Establishment = those who actually work for the election of Republicans and those who actually vote for Republicans.
Ah but you see, the waspy country clubbers do have a problem with Mormons. Not because of any deeply held theological position but because they are too ‘different’ and ‘exotic’ for their delicate tastes.
“GOP Establishment = those who actually work for the election of Republicans and those who actually vote for Republicans.”
GOP Establishment - those who actually work for the election of liberal republicans and those who actually have enough money to advance the selection of liberal republican candidates for office.
Actually, I think the WASP-y country clubbers could care less about anyone being a Mormon as long as they aren’t trying to marry into the family.
Well, speaking for my waspy self, I have no problem with Romney being a Mormon. I do have a problem with him being from Massachusetts. I figure a Republican from Massachusetts is a Democrat in at least 45 out of 50 states. (The other seven states I’m not sure about....)
As one person who posted on the Hill site wrote: It isn’t that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. It is that he is Eddie Haskell.
They may have been the Republican establishment, but if they were promoting Rockefeller and Lodge, they probably weren't very conservative. Certainly not conservative in the Goldwater-Buckley-Reagan movement conservative sense, but probably not very conservative in other senses of the word.
Bill Robinson? Cliff Roberts? Slats Slater? Apparently these people really existed and were pals and golfing buddies of Ike's, but were they really the Establishment? If so, then the Establishment may not have been the bogeyman the Goldwater people took it for.
Will Chris Christie save them? Will Obama save the Kennedys? Because as Obama is to the House of Kennedy — the last man standing — so Christie is to the House of Bush, and both these royal Massachusetts families are going the way of the Nepal monarchists and the Romanoffs.
Well, Chris Christie isn't a Rockefeller, a Lodge, or even a Scranton. He's not part of any American political dynasty.
The Bushes really aren't a Massachusetts family and haven't been for almost a century. The Bushes aren't yet as desperate as the Kennedys, and if the House of Bush has a future, it will be in Florida, maybe in Texas, because one of their own manages to get elected again. It won't be because a New Jersey governor wins the presidency. And really, following the Bush family trajectory down through the years, is Christie really any more their man than Perry or Romney?
One thing the article does get right: some Republicans from the Northeast would like to see a candidate from their region get the nomination, just as many Texans want a Texan in the White House again. But Chris Christie is a far cry from Ike's or Rocky's or Poppy's Republican Establishment.
Examples of Republican Establishment types include the recently deceased UpChuck Percy, every bit as exciting in death as in life. NancyBoy Kirk of Illinois. Richard Dead Man Walking Lugar (see description of Upchuck even if Lugar's body is still technically alive). Anything named Rockefeller (other than Senator Jay who made an honest man of himself by being a Demonrat). Big Jim Thompson. Jim Edgar. Lyin' George Jailbird Ryan. John Anderson. Lynne Martin. Illinois Republican House "leader" Tom Doublecross and his Senate counterpart, faithful servants of the Chicago Demonrat Machine through its infamous "Combine" which gives Speaker Madigan and worse control of the Illinois GOP.
I have concentrated on the Illinois quislings other than Indiana's senile Senator but most states have similar shameful examples of trust fund wimps using money to buy position. Lowell Weicker, Tom Keane, former "Republican" Lincoln Chaffee (now semi-honest as an Independent, soon to be departed Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson, LAMAR!!!, Robert Corker, Lisa Moocowski, and a host of other trash in surprising places around the country. When they have all gone the way of Robert TARPlover Bennett and Michael Castle and Charlie Crist, we will have a GOP caucus in each house in Washington worthy of support.
Better an obvious Machine hack and tool with one foot in prison and the other on a banana peel like Giannoulias than a strange fellow like Nancyboy serving on auto sellout as a "Republican" and devoid of any noticeable principles whatsoever. Better a Joe Lieberman than a Lowell Weicker as well.
You may be worth listening to if and when "Republican" reliably means "conservative" on the tapestry of issues that are more important than your personal finances as affected by public policy. As Ronaldus Maximus used to say, the GOP banner should be bold colors and not pale pastels.
In Illinois, "Republican Establishment" also means this Cellini guy who went on trial in federal district court today for shaking down Hollywood producers to give money to former DEMONRAT Governor Rod Jailbird Blagojevich. Cellini (or whatever his name is) is probably confused since shaking people down to support Chicago Demonrat politicians is what is expected of every Illinois faux "Republican" leader. Thanks be to God that we have some good GOP (i.e. conservative across the board) Congress members in Illinois or there would be practically no Illinois GOP at all.
Voting for "Republicans" who vote like Demonrats (other than occasionally on your personal finances) does not count as Republican activity.
Republican is a term suggesting more in the way of ideological purity and commitment than membership in the Union League, the Junior League or the polo club. When Illinois has reason to understand that, Illinois will become actually Republican. No more verrrry rich and verrrry poor and verrrry connected winning against the rest of Illinois and bleeding it dry. And no more wimp Republicrats posing as though they were actually Republican.
It’s not my fault the Mormon and the Texan are both wienies.
Christie gets in, pulls support from Romney and Perry wins. Perry goes on to defeat Obama and all of this hand-wringing is moot.
>>The debates and the media, for whom they are singularly designed, are out of control and the tool to the chaos. Control of the debates, the message, the interview venues of our candidates needs to be crafted to benefit us and not a circular firing squad. This would require a collaborative effort of the candidates and RNC.
Worth saying again.
I suppose you believe in Unicorns and fire-breathing dragons too.
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