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To: the_daug
They were brought to the US and in most cases it would be cruel to return them to where they came from.

Oh boo frickin hoo, it'll be cruel.

Cruel is maming women in the name of allah, simply for being women. Cruel is rape. Cruel is torture. Cruel is digging a hole and burying someone up to their waste, and then throwing rocks at them as hard as you can, until they are dead. Cruel is Saddam Husseins son, having his goons grab a newly wed couple, raping the wife in front of her husband, then throwing her out a window to her death.

Sending illegals back isn't cruel. Hard, yes. Inconvenient, yes. But cruel? ... No.

Our nation is $14.6 TRILLION in debt and adding $1.6 TRILLION to that every year.

In state tuition amounts to a subsidy. Subsidies are paid by taxes. Taxes paid by hard working Americans, so THEIR kids can go to school. Unemployment is at about 16%. There are about 160 million people in the labor force, with about 26 million unemployed. There are about 20 million illegals in this country. You do the math.

Being that unemployment is at 16% either a heavier tax burden gets passed on to those who ARE working, or the subsidies for education get tacked on to debt.

Illegals are more likely to use food stamps. Use public assisted housing. Use public assisted utilities. Go to the ER for any and every scrape cut or sniffle, because they will be treated and won't have to pay.

ALL THIS ON THE TAX PAYERS DIME.

Meanwhile OUR taxes go up, to pay for all this, meaning it gets harder and harder for Americans to live and MAYBE put THEIR OWN kids through college, and you think its CRUEL, if we should send anyone back to their third world country, when they DON'T LEGALLY have any RIGHT in ours.

How about the "cruelty" to those who came here legally, and did EVERYTHING asked of them, to become US citizens, who now have to pay out of state fees, while the criminal gets subsidized???

48 posted on 10/02/2011 1:02:07 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: mountn man

I was against the amnesty in 1986 and in 1991 I was threatened by officials in an employment office for EOT cause I questioned papers of their client so I filled out the I9 and quit caring about Illegals. So if the Government don’t do their job then illegals who came here can claim squatters right or give them amnesty or what ever you want to call it. But the children who grew up here should be given a easy path to be legal. The government needs to do its job but they don’t.


50 posted on 10/02/2011 1:23:48 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: mountn man
Also I am sure we have all seen the illegals parade in our city's demanding citizenship and trying to fly the mexican flag above ours....gee, that just makes me want to love them all the more.

Especially when they parade and give the finger to the camera's and grab their crotch...They are not illegals they are an invasion and its not just mexicans that come across the southern border, its also terrorist, narc-terrorists and gang bangers....Some people in this country are just plain nutz....One of the biggest is the governor of Texas along with the idiot democrat female governor from a state I forgot that wants to suspect the next election cause democrats might lose congress....

If these people thought they could get away with it, conservatives would be in gulags and I am damn serious about that....

58 posted on 10/02/2011 1:59:39 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: mountn man

Your rant is not too far off the mark, although it is all over the map. However, the States can’t deport any one. We can’t refuse to educate kids from Kindergarten through 12th grade, we can’t refuse emergency room care.

And the Feds are not deporting many. They actually bring illegals to Texas and send them over the border from our small towns, like Presidio and Del Rio. They have set up 11 Immigration and Customs detention centers in Texas for criminals they import from other states. They practice “catch and release,” letting the illegals go when they’ve been caught, and tell them to come back for a *hearing.* But over the last year or so, the DOJ dumped over 300,000 of those cases, dismissing the hearing and the not even trying to deport the illegals.

Now, if we can’t get the criminals who are actually in the system deported, what do you think the Feds will do about the 17 or 18 year old who gets into college?


79 posted on 10/02/2011 3:21:12 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: mountn man

You posted a most excellent post.

Sums it all up.


117 posted on 10/02/2011 5:40:47 AM PDT by dforest
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To: mountn man

bttt


120 posted on 10/02/2011 5:46:15 AM PDT by petercooper (2012 - Purge more RINO's.)
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To: mountn man
"Sending illegals back isn't cruel. Hard, yes. Inconvenient, yes. But cruel? ... No"

I look at it this way we are just doing for the Mexicans what the left wants for the Palestinians the 'RIGHT OF RETURN'. ;-)
134 posted on 10/02/2011 6:20:46 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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