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For Listeria victims, sudden turns for the worse
AP via Yahoo ^ | October 1, 2011 | Dan Elliott

Posted on 10/01/2011 10:41:45 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety

DENVER (AP) — Charles Palmer is a hardy 71-year-old former Marine and Vietnam veteran who trains cockatiels to say "Semper Fi" and "Whatcha doin', man?" He also loves fruit — and especially melon for lunch. "He's never one to get sick," said his wife, Tammie. The Colorado Springs man ate a cantaloupe that was purchased in mid-August, his wife said. Within several days, he was overcome by an excruciating headache. The next morning he was extremely weak and gripped by dry heaves, his wife recalled. "I started slapping his face and saying, 'You've got to talk to me,' but he couldn't," she said. She called 911. At the hospital, she said, he was diagnosed with the strain of Listeria blamed for a 19-state outbreak that has killed at least 15 and sickened at least 84.

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To: FreedomNotSafety
" Don't read if you dislike rants... "

" Don't " get upset when you find your thread pulled for making up your own title for material written and published by someone else. This time we will replace the title you made up:

"Not Reported: Organic Foods Kill"

with the published title.

To help decrease the number of threads we pull everyday, just use the published title only. Thanks.

41 posted on 10/01/2011 11:51:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: JRandomFreeper

Google is your friend. Try “listeria and cows” as a search.

20 listings that say cows carry listeria bacteria couldnt all be wrong even if it is the internet.


42 posted on 10/01/2011 11:51:57 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: JRandomFreeper

Cow intestinal tracts are the primary source for the particular variety of E. coli that makes people so sick.

But in general you are quite correct that human feces are much more dangerous to humans than those of any other animal.

BTW, cantaloupe, due to the rough nature of their skin, are probably impossible to thoroughly wash or disinfect. Most disinfectants are rated as such based on their effectiveness on clean, non-porous surfaces. A cantaloupe surface is about as porous as you can get.


43 posted on 10/01/2011 11:56:26 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: FreedomNotSafety
So he ate a melon. Is that the only thing he ate for several days? Nothing else? How do you isolate the melon as the disease vector? Sounds like a highly prejudicial rant.
44 posted on 10/01/2011 11:57:08 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Swine are forbidden from consumption by Jews

Correction...Swine are forbidden from consumption by YHVH and He meant it for ALL and for very good reason, to protect the health of ALL His children.

If modern science says

Modern science done by responsible scientists that are not in the business that is subsidized by pork lobbying groups already proved to us many decades ago that there is absolutely no process, heat or otherwise, to remove the diseases from any part of a pig that is used for meat or additives such as gelatin that the pig carries. And pigs do not contain naturally the ability to remove it themselves. And what is the leading cause of death in the US? Cancer What is the leading meat or meat by product consumed by the US? Pig meat & pig meat by-products. They are even used in processed breads, candy, chips, you name it, it is used, every last bit of the pig has been processed in order to be able to use it & the public is none the wiser at why an infant who has never even sucked at their mother's breast, let alone taken a bite of solid food is diagnosed with cancer. It is a proven fact that the lowest cancer rates of any group of people are found in those who follow the dietary laws given to us by our Creator.

45 posted on 10/01/2011 11:58:28 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Well all I can say is Jensen Farms grew the cantaloupe Pesticide free and all Organic!!! Enough said!!!


46 posted on 10/02/2011 12:01:37 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodSafety/CORENetwork/ucm272372.htm


47 posted on 10/02/2011 12:02:39 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: patlin
the public is none the wiser at why an infant who has never even sucked at their mother's breast, let alone taken a bite of solid food is diagnosed with cancer

And I still don't know. What have you missed saying - it's the formula?
48 posted on 10/02/2011 12:03:54 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: patlin

Your “correction” is not biblically based. Not to anyone with the literary capability of a fifth grader who can follow a story through a narrative.


49 posted on 10/02/2011 12:05:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Admin Moderator

Sorry about that but the form says “Title of Thread”. I took “thread” to mean the series of replies and not the title of the article. UrbanDictionary.com gives this definition of Thread: “On a message board, the inside of a topic revealing all the messages.”

Perhaps a little more specificity on the form will lead to less threads being pulled?


50 posted on 10/02/2011 12:06:09 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: presently no screen name
Why if you can't guess it from that Holy Rambling Screed, you obviously are one of the Ignorati! /s
51 posted on 10/02/2011 12:10:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I feel that info about infants was just left out. I’d like some insight as to why the very young get cancer.


52 posted on 10/02/2011 12:18:35 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: HiTech RedNeck
When YHVH said that His dietary laws were for ALL His children & that they are forever throughout all generations, what part of forever do you not understand? I do know where you are coming from though, because I was once there myself, the covenant laws are not for me. Boy was I wrong and my arthritis in remission by merely changing my diet. 6 months ago I couldn't even sit on the floor without needing help to get up. I now spring right up as if I was a young mother on the floor playing with her child, only these days it is the grandchildren. If one professes to believe in Messiah, by that spoken word, they are under His covenant laws as taught to us by Paul in the NT.

Romans 8:1-11 ~ 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

53 posted on 10/02/2011 12:21:43 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
The fecal matter is not just from the field hands and is usually from animal feces besides that, washing in a chlorine solution is not organic. In fact the green weenies wish to see the use of chlorine banned.

Food grade H2O2 is fine for use with organic farmers and does the job.

I am not a liberal but I believe that conservative principles in farming are important. GMOs fly in the face of nature and the God of nature. For those who think all the food we get in this Country is fine why are so many diseases on the increase in such a big way.

I think we need to go back to doing things the way God intended. The LORD gave commandment for the land to completely rest every seven years. It got the Israelites into huge trouble when they disobeyed that one.

Americans could spend more money and thought on eating more healthy and less on so much entertainment, really expensive cars and great big houses, that is if we did what was best for us (and there is no law against actually doing what is best for ourselves and our families). It doesn't mean that we should be forced to do so but rather that we should be intelligent enough to do so.

Agriculture should be one of our top priorities like it was before the industrial revolution. Modern conveniences are nice but what good do they do you if you are sick? Our economy would do better if we once again were an agriculture based economy rather than being based on how fast and furiously we can build big new houses to satisfy our huge materialistic egos. I grew up with conservative grandparents. Many do not know what it really means to be conservatives.

The big government people would like to take away our rights as individuals to grow and raise our own food if we choose to do so. If they can make us dependent on huge farm factories that put out GMO products they have us where they want us. In order to control us all they need to do is control our food and make sure that we have to get it from them. Even seeds that actually reproduce cannot be obtained from GMO fruits and vegetables. You couldn't even harvest them to grow if things got tough enough so that you had to.

It has gotten so bad that in Wisconsin a judge just said it is illegal for a farmer or his family to drink milk from his own cows. Talk about taking our freedoms away, yes, it starts with food and medicine. All you people who are satisfied with mass produced food be careful because the government can control you through it. It is wise for Conservatives, as much as possible, to become independent of societal needs for food, water and heating so that society doesn't have such a strong arm control over us.

54 posted on 10/02/2011 12:21:43 AM PDT by Bellflower (When the word "holy" is used it must be used with respect and reverence for The LORD.)
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To: patlin

google can be your friend too. The CDC says heart disease is the number one killer with cancer as number two. Both diseases spike at old ages so most people have to live along while before the succumb to these two diseases.

Our modern era which includes our foods and farming have provided great advances in longevity. I don’t see kosher Jews and halal Muslims outliving ordinary Americans.

There are plenty of Jewish dietary and hygienic laws that are obsolete due to scientific advancements my favorite example is the treatment for leprosy.


55 posted on 10/02/2011 12:23:04 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

You are wrong on the analysis of this. This will open the door to more Government intervention into all farming. You want the government involved in every aspect of your life, start with the food chain. They will have you by the stomach. Conversely, why not use better cleansing techniques when handling foods in the kitchen? Could be as simple as washing the outside of the fruit or vegetable thoroughly before cutting into it and serving, especially if serving raw.


56 posted on 10/02/2011 12:27:15 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: presently no screen name
And I still don't know. What have you missed saying - it's the formula?

I don't know about formula as I haven't read what is actually used in it. But caner cells, once they enter the human body change the DNA of the blood that is then passed into the child in the womb. Pretty scary isn't it? I nearly fainted when this information was revealed to me as I had a child die for absolutely no reason at age 3 mths. The medical people called it SIDS, but I now have my doubts as these scientists say that most of the cancerous cells that are passed through the womb are rarely detected until it is too late. And for the record, I was breast feeding at the time and my child had never had a drop of anything processed by a factory of any sort. But it wouldn't hurt to check and see if any pig by-product preservatives or fats are added to infant formula.

57 posted on 10/02/2011 12:28:01 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
There are plenty of Jewish dietary and hygienic laws that are obsolete

Only the ones that were put in place by legalism which is rabbinical law that was added to the scriptures.

The CDC says heart disease is the number one killer

CDC = Govt, since when can their statistics be trusted. They are the biggest financial supporters of the pork industry in this country. Just ask Smithfield Foods. Govt is their friend.

58 posted on 10/02/2011 12:35:41 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Our modern era which includes our foods and farming have provided great advances

Correction..our medical advances have provided great advances to prolong life, but the fact remains, as time goes on, the organic lifespan of man decreases even in the age of modern medical advances.

59 posted on 10/02/2011 12:40:08 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

If you’d prefer, we can pull this thread for you, now.


60 posted on 10/02/2011 12:53:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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