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Perry sticks to his guns in first town hall
Concord Monitor ^ | October 1, 2011 | Karen Langley

Posted on 10/01/2011 1:40:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Norm Lenhart

But his problematic issues on the border, ...


What? Perry wants to secure the border! He has been asking for years for the Feds to put more boots on the ground in Texas, surveillance equipment, etc.

It’s the Fed’s Constitutional responsibility to protect the border, not the individual States’. Texas has spent over $400 million of taxpayers’ dollars in trying to stem the flow of illegals, drugs, human trafficing, etc. There are special teams of Texas Rangers and TX Guardsmen supporting the Border Patrol. A recent addition is a marine squad of the Texas Rangers, using gunboats on the Rio Grande.

Folks saying Perry is an open border guy are full of it, and most probably have never been anywhere near the 1250 mile border between TX and Mexico. That border is not suitable for building a tall fence, due to the river and terrain which is not as flat as it is in CA and AZ.


121 posted on 10/01/2011 6:43:55 AM PDT by octex
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To: Norm Lenhart; normy
This is the fence the feds are building. See how that gate is opened and it is never closed. Rick Perry says without boots on the ground a fence is NO obstacle. You think for one minute that will keep illegals out?


122 posted on 10/01/2011 6:52:29 AM PDT by shield ((Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: alicewonders

Perry has said that the illegal problem has Texans’ hands tied because of the inaction of the federal government - he needs to pound this fact loud and clear! He has also said that if he is elected president - he will correct the problem of illegal entry.

Some people just refuse to hear what they don’t want to hear


A) We’ve been lied to and abused by our own on this issue for years now.

B) Perry calling us heartless bigots and giving in-state tuition to illegals, smacks of pandering and coddling so his statements that he will secure the border do not ring true.

C) Due to his (at best) inept speaking style and horrible communication in the debates I cannot foresee how he is going to change the minds of those (myself included) that he so abrupty turned off in the last debate.

D) The man cannot even effectively attack Romney w/o making a damned fool of himself. ROMNEY! Good God that’s like hitting a pinata that is lying on the ground with a sledgehammer! That whole “before, before, after, uh...uh” episode was stark raving embarrassment. So basically it looks like we have Bush part II here. An illegal alien lover that can’t friggin’ speak.


123 posted on 10/01/2011 6:55:38 AM PDT by Grunthor (Cain. You see what he's done to Garafalo and Freeman. Wouldn't it be fun to see all the time?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Why don’t you come to Texas and walk the border all the way from Brownsville to El Paso? And right down the border.
Not on one side or the other but right down the middle. And while you’re walking, ask the farmers and
ranchers how they will like having their water supply for their livestock effed up. Then come back here and tell us what your findings are.


124 posted on 10/01/2011 6:56:20 AM PDT by SwatTeam
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To: shield

No one is saying a fence eliminates the need for boots on the ground. It would be part of a comprehensive approach. If fences are so ineffective, then why do all secure facilities have them?


125 posted on 10/01/2011 6:56:20 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Norm Lenhart

That is absurd. A state chair of a presidential campaign in 1988 that went no where had nothing to do with Gore’s future as an eco-nut. He was a Southern Senator at the time, and the more conservative of the candidates. Gore became VP in 1992 and that had nothing to do with who chaired a single state campaign committee. A statewide elected official like Perry is GOING TO SUPPORT A CANDIDATE OF THEIR PARTY 100% of the time.

Gore was always and environmentalist and global warning guy, as was pretty much anyone on the left. He went wacko crazy on the issue after his 2000 beating, and had nothing left but to make a name and money on this issue.


126 posted on 10/01/2011 6:58:40 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: octex

I have said this before in another thread, and the fence crowd ignored it.

So, you want a fence, eh? We have one here. It is called 18 to 100 miles of sea water between the UK and Europe. A slightly more effective barrier than a poxy 30 foot fence, right? We still get between 600k and 1 million illegals coming in per year.
Italy has 50 to 200 miles of sea as their fence - they get the same sort of infulx - every year.
Don’t talk crap about fences. Boots on the ground!


127 posted on 10/01/2011 6:58:40 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: alicewonders

“The calls for Christie are coming about because of their fear that Perry is going to come out on top even after their minions at FOX gave it their best shot to knock him out at their last debate.”

Chris Wallace did NOT make Perry stammer like a drunk. Chris Wallace actually set him up perfectly to attack Romney, and then Perry opened his mouth and George W Bush popped out.

Chris Wallace did not make Perry attack 81% of the electorate by calling them heartless(last debate) bigots(two debates ago), Perry opened his mouth and George W Bush(vigilantes) and Lindsay Graham(bigots) and John McCain(lazy) popped out.

We’ve been hearing it for years from our own side. We recognize it when we hear it again.


128 posted on 10/01/2011 7:03:44 AM PDT by Grunthor (Cain. You see what he's done to Garafalo and Freeman. Wouldn't it be fun to see all the time?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OTOH, how much is Mr. Perry’s DREAM Act costing the citizens there?


There is no DREAM act. It’s only an in-state tuition with specific prerequisites that was granted in 2001. Other states also have similar programs. ....How is this costing the TX citizens? If students qualify, THEY have to pay the tuition and fees; not the taxpayers. The students who do go to a public college or university only comprise about 1% of the student population.


129 posted on 10/01/2011 7:06:45 AM PDT by octex
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I haven't gotten to go through the whole thread. I don't know if you posted the link to the townhall meeting so I will post it. To actually see the video it is to the right.

RICK PERRY HOLDS TOWNHALL MEETING WITH NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS.

130 posted on 10/01/2011 7:08:24 AM PDT by shield ((Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: SwatTeam

I have a hard time imagining what goes through a person’s mind that they are willing to sacrifice their reputations and integrity just to support Illegal aliens and politicians who support illegal aliens. Say the words below out loud and think about how absurd they sound.

“America put men on the moon in the 60s, Live in outer space, built cities full of towers of steel concrete and glass, some over 1000 feet high, split the atom and can drill for oil in 13,000 feet of water, but we cannot make a fence with a couple pipes, reservoirs and animal-sized holes in it.”


131 posted on 10/01/2011 7:15:57 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Liz
But But But, never mind any of that -- Ricardo and the TEF promised to ~raise the chocolate ration Country Wide from 45 to 28 grams per week! Yee haw!

"Angelo Mozilo, thank you"
--Governor Ricardo Perry
--Tuesday, December 14, 2004
http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10202/

 


132 posted on 10/01/2011 7:18:45 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Right-to-work is not anti-union bill, it is a pro-jobs bill," Perry said.

It's comments like this that make me wonder sometimes if Perry truly isn't incredibly stupid. Right-to-work laws are anti-union. So what? Why shouldn't businesses and workers have the right to decide if they want to join a union or not? If Perry actually believes in his heart-of-hearts that right-to-work laws are not anti-union then he must also believe that labor-rights laws or closed-shop laws are not pro-union.

133 posted on 10/01/2011 7:27:24 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: LomanBill; Condor51; South40; stephenjohnbanker; momtothree; 2ndDivisionVet; B4Ranch; Iron Munro; ..
LOL.....Angelo Mozilo says "thank you" to Gov Ricardo Perry.

SOURCE Tuesday, December 14, 2004 http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10202/

Mozilo and Ricardo had just pulled off a $20 million heist from the TEF---so there were plenty of thank you's to go 'round.

134 posted on 10/01/2011 7:32:27 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We canÂ’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"We got into this economic mess because of misplaced government interference in the first place. The mortgage crisis that triggered the collapse of our financial markets was rooted in a well-meaning but wrongheaded desire to increase home ownership among people who could not yet afford to own a home.

Politicians on the right AND left wanted to take credit for an increase in middle-class home ownership. But the rules of the marketplace are just as constraining as human nature. Government cannot force financial institutions to give loans to people who can't afford to pay them back and then expect that somehow things will all magically work out. Sooner or later, reality catches up with us. "


Meanwhile...
...we are unveiling its crowning jewel.  I am proud to announce that the state of Texas is investing $20 million from the Texas Enterprise Fund to help Countrywide Financial"
 
"You can consider the Countrywide expansion to be “Exhibit A” as to why we need to continue to invest state dollars in the Texas Enterprise Fund.

Angelo Mozilo, thank you"
 
--Governor Ricardo Perry
--Tuesday, December 14, 2004 
 
"Rampant fraud in the mortgage industry has increased so sharply that the FBI warned Friday of an "epidemic" of ...
 
--September 17, 2004|
 
"For the Pritzker family of Chicago, the 2001 collapse of subprime-mortgage lender Superior Bank was an embarrassing failure.."
 
Got Due Diligence?
 
 
"We'll help you out"
-- BoA/Countrywide to Perry, 2011
 
 
Maybe Ricar(D)o shouldn't play with guns.  He's likely to shoot himself in both feet, while sticking them in his mouth... again.

 


135 posted on 10/01/2011 7:38:11 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: doublecansiter

What was the vote in the house and senate on this “dream”
act?

Did it pass with a slim margin and could he have vetoed it
if he wanted to?


Without doing research, I’m just going on old memory. I believe the TX Legislature voted something like 181-4 FOR approval of the in-state tuition. It was obviously more than enough to override a veto.

Prez Bush was in the same situation during his last two years, when the Dems had majorities in both the House and Senate. ....The years when outrageous spending became rampant and led to the constant lies about Bush leaving a bad situation that Obama inherited.


136 posted on 10/01/2011 7:40:27 AM PDT by octex
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To: Norm Lenhart

You didn’t address my remarks except to question my integrity. Did you question President Reagon’s
integrity or patriotism when he signed his amnesty act in the 80’s? This is no where near the same thing and neither is your analogy.


137 posted on 10/01/2011 7:46:16 AM PDT by SwatTeam
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To: octex

>>Bush leaving a bad situation

"Ooops"

Best RATs and RINOs money could buy.

 

 


138 posted on 10/01/2011 7:54:45 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: doublecansiter

Four TX lawmakers voted no, out of the entire cast.

Four.


139 posted on 10/01/2011 8:02:05 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: SwatTeam

At the time I was about 20 and still learning about politics, but I did indeed think it was a horrible idea.

That aside, look up what the Reagan amnesty was SUPPOSED to do and what Tip O’Neill and the dems immediately did to change it’s provisions. Then look what the dems did over the next couple years to gut it totally.

You don’t think America can build a fence that gets water to the ranchers/farmers? Seriously?

America wants that fence. We even had it in the process before libs and RINOS killed it. So what to I do? Side with people I agree with the majority who were and still are in favor of that fence or do I say to hell with it because some guy on the net refuses or just does not want to think we have better tech than China of a few centuries ago. They built one heck of a wall...by hand... and repecced a lot more determined enemy than we have in Mexico.

And if I’m wrong,I sincerely apologize for earlier and now. But I am fed up to the freaking gills with my fellow Americans ready to roll over because they have taken Obama’s “No we can’t” BS attitude regarding the fence, illegal aliens and a number of other issues.


140 posted on 10/01/2011 8:04:44 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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