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To: rabscuttle385
Straw man argument. We're not an empire. We don't seek to add to our domain. We are not seeking to add a new state of Iraq to the Union. Or Afghanistan.

We do sit and smackdown troublemakers where they come from, instead of here. Which is fine with me.

If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch. But don't call us imperial, when we're not trying to expand an empire.

That's just projection of what the mohamedeans are trying to do, bringing Islam (submission) to the entire world.

Leave the US alone, and we won't try to kill you. That's pretty simple.

/johnny

4 posted on 09/30/2011 9:56:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Well, we are not an empire in the same way that Spain, Holland, France, and Britain were, largely mercantilist in character. In a way we were more like Russia, landbased. But we were not landlocked. The whole history of the Russian empire would have been different of they had gained control of the Straits. What might have been can be seen that in 1912, Russia sent almost as much grain to the world as the United States. though the Bosporous and the Dardanelles.


9 posted on 09/30/2011 10:13:07 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Just like Rome was a de facto empire well before the wars with Carthage, America has been an empire since 1803. We have a different ideology than past empires - professing the freedom of the individual. And we have armies in dozens of countries around the world to make sure those countries and their neighbors adhere to that ideology or else. We believe that states which adhere to that ideology will be generally benign to our interests and that is all we require as part of the empire. Woe to those who hold substantial other interests.

This is historically a practical necessity: You are either an empire or you are subservient to someone else’s empire. America proper, as 6% of the world, is far too small to concede the other 94% to someone else’s ideology and interests and remain viable.


20 posted on 10/01/2011 1:41:20 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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