There you go FIBBING again. You have falsely combined two things to mislead conservatives about Rubio. The Minor case was quoted by the Wong Kim Ark judges about the need to go elsewhere for what natural born citizen meant, not to back up your silly Vattle stuff about what a natural born citizen is. Which is why you don’t put a link to what Judge Waite said, and tell what case it is in, and what the basic facts of the case were.
Plus, like the other fibber Vattle Birther here, you quote the Venus stuff which was 1830 something and not even about natural born citizen stuff. Which is also why you don’t tell the people here what the Venus case was about, give them the date, and give them a link, which is because you know if you do you will just bust your own self out.
Plus, yes I have shown you where the 14th and natural born citizen are the same thing, but you just want to pretend that I haven’t because it proves you are wrong. It is up above here, and was a case before Wong Kim Ark, in Wong Kim Ark, and in a case after Wong kim Ark. You did not dispute any of that because you can’t. It’s in English and is easy to read.
Which all of this is why REAL conservative lawyers like Mark Levin say about Vattle Birther PRETEND lawyers on the Internet:
I want you to listen to me on my social sites. Marco Rubio was born in Miami, Florida. He is a natural born United States citizen. And if I get any more of this Birther crap up there. . .this is a warning, and I don’t care who you are, you’re going to be banned. Okay? This is a site I put up for rational people. Marco Rubio was born in Miami, Florida in 1940, excuse me, 1971. He’s 40. There’s no debate. So take that Birther crap somewhere else. Just a warning. . .got it? I’m not into all that crap. You can go somewhere else for that.
Mark Levin
Sept. 28, 2011
Get that??? He said there’s NO DEBATE. Your inability or refusal to read and understand something does not make a worthwhile theory. Sooo, why don’t you stop being a Vattle Birther and quit misleading and giving false and bad legal advice about conservatives like Mark RubiO???
The "elsewhere" is a verbatim match of Vattel's definition of NBC. There's no English common law. Minor didn't cite any. It's why I put Minor's definition side by side with Vattel's. They match so much that Waite should have been sued for plagiarism (since he failed to cite Vattel). All the citations of common law used in Wong Kim Ark were ONLY used to bolster the 14th amendment, which the SCOTUS, as Gray acknowledged, UNANIMOUSLY said EXCLUDED NBCs.
Plus, like the other fibber Vattle Birther here, you quote the Venus stuff which was 1830 something and not even about natural born citizen stuff.
I already explained that it was quoted to show that the Court had previously cited Vattel by name. The definition that Marshall cited is the same one used by Waite with only minor (pun intended) variation.
Plus, yes I have shown you where the 14th and natural born citizen are the same thing, but you just want to pretend that I haven’t because it proves you are wrong.
Nothing you posted overrides Minor's definition. Wong Kim Ark cited and legally AFFIRMED that definition. Gray used as guidance for making him UNABLE to declare Ark to be a natural born citizen. The words speak for themselves. It IS an exclusive, self-limiting definition:
... all children born in the country to parents who were its citizens. These are the natives, or natural-born citizens ...Which all of this is why REAL conservative lawyers like Mark Levin say about Vattle Birther PRETEND lawyers on the Internet:
Levin is just shutting out the inconvenient truth. The Supreme Court is clear. NBC = born in the country to citizen parents.