Posted on 09/28/2011 5:01:27 AM PDT by bobsunshine
With Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry under attack for supporting tuition breaks for children of illegal immigrants, former Gov. Jeb Bush on Tuesday offered some solidarity by calling a similar proposal in Florida fair policy."
In 2001, Perry signed the first state law in the country that allowed the children of illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition rates. Former Florida state Rep. Juan Zapata said the Texas law was "the model" for legislation that he repeatedlybut unsuccessfullypushed in his state. Two of his key allies then are now among the GOP's most sought-after stars: Bush, the subject of perpetual draft movements to run for president, and his fellow Floridian, Sen. Marco Rubio, a sure bet for the GOP's vice presidential shortlist in 2012.
I think that is a fair policy," Bush said in an e-mail to National Journal on Tuesday, adding that the students who benefit from the tuition breaks find themselves in the United States through no fault of their own."
(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...
The fact is that we, the people who own this government, have been complacent for decades and allowed the government to do whatever it wanted. This is what has brought us to where we are today and a perfect storm is coming in which the generally conservative general public will clash with the liberal policies of the government.
I, personally, believe that we are long overdue for an overthrow of the government to reset everything back to the way that the Founders intended. The government they outlined in the Constitution is excellent and needs only a few "tweaks" to make it perfect.
“These kids are illegals too, just to be clear”
Just to be clear, we are not really talking about “kids” here at all. An 18 year old is an adult.
I’m with you. Our “public servants” have turned the tables on us - we’re going to have to have our own Bastille Day to turn them back around. THEY are not the boss of us!
To give the children of illegal aliens more 'rights' than a child from Ohio is heartless.
We need to be educating these children, because they will become a drag on our society."
Does this not apply to *every* child in America? Why are the children of illegal aliens special? And I'd also like to point out that these kids don't just get in-state tuition. They're also eligible for grants and scholarships that American children should have. WE ARE PAYING FOR IT. The whole point of this article is, "it's not a big deal. Everybody's doing it." That is a lazy argument.
McCain, Dole, the Bush boys...you've done such a great job of it in the past I can sit home in peace knowing at least you can't get any worse.
It's been forced on the states on the courts for many years. You can't deny a child an education even if their parents are illegal. The courts haven't forced anyone to give tuition breaks for college. That's all been the work of local politicians.
Yes, because illegal immigration has been gradually institutionalized in the United States by the political establishment in baby steps, against the will of the people. Bush was part of it, Perry continues the tradition.
As to why the legislation comes about, it is rather obvious that many politicians do not really consider themselves first and foremost representatives of the American demos, but rather border-transcending representatives of Liberalism, their first loyalty.
“The Bush family is comprised of mainly good, patriotic people, but I won’t vote for another one for POTUS.”
I do not consider them patriotic - their first loyalty is to Liberalism, not the American people.
Thanks for posting this. I live in Pa where only 3 of 67 counties have signed up for Secure Communities. I emailed my state reps and Judiciary committees about this and cc’d the local Tea Party group.
If you are ok with illegal immigration, and take the position that immigration law should not be enforced, then you are not a conservative by any reasonable definition.
As for breaking the cycle, making it more difficult to work and live in the US without legal residency is the key to making illegal immigration a less attractive option.
Well there goes Rubio.
He should just resign right now. He’s toast. No one will vote for him /S
Allowing a Texas resisent to go to school at in state rates is not a break.
resident
Well, the way its going for most of us natural born citizens, we’re now feeling we’re in the United States
‘through no fault of our own” also.
ANYONE
When you register to vote, do you affirm that you ARE a citizen? Or just a resident?
It seems like voter fraud if a person lies on the application, therefore, the applicant would be unable to vote.
Educating and systematically assimilating the children of illegals, to prevent them becoming a 2d/3rd generation of resentful, poverty ridden, govt benefit sucking illegals, is hardly a radical idea or a surrender of traditional conservative values.
The gamble our current viable conservative candidates ALL share (with slight variations) is that changing our FAILED laws and FAILED immigration policy, even at a short term cost to the taxpayer, will be offset by the long term gain of more educated workers in our economy, and more US citizens by choice. Maybe even hard working freedom-appreciating conservatives like many Cubans and Vietnamese. And strategically, that will bring more internal security and stability than reinventing the Great Wall of China or Berlin Wall across our southern border.
But hey, if you want to preserve the purity of "reasonable" conservativism to round up these people and deport them, then run for office. Or find a political leader who can persuade the rest of America to elect him. He hasnt emerged yet
Ping!
There is no politician running for POTUS of either party who does not or will not support this. Some conservatives may have preconditions or qualifiers, such as requiring that the student have attended in state high school or served in US military, parents have paid state taxes, limiting it to community college and requiring that the illegals register and get on a track to citizenship (all part of the Maryland Dream Act). So good luck in staying home. The rest of us will choose your next POTUS for you. .... silverleaf
Rick Perry (and 98% of the Texas Legislature) has supported in-state tuition for young adults that, through no fault of their own, grew up in Texas during their high school years because of something their parents did.
In Texas, young adults that grew up in Texas during their high school years qualify for in-state tuition even their New England father, on Texas' Death Row, moved from Boston to Texas 10 years ago to become a serial killer.
Imagine the 1980's Ronald Reagan (the one who actually amnestied 3 million illegals as President) running in the GOP Primaries today. This is what Michael Reagan has to say about how he would fare in the current Purist climate.
In the end, however, maybe Perry is not Presidential material simply because, unlike Ronald Reagan, he is not a "Great Communicator".
On stage, Perry seems to live up to his 2.2 college GPA and, worse, it was reported that Perry (maybe because of overconfidence about high poll numbers) declined to engage in any extra debate preparation. As a result, slick talking Mitt Romney (graduated first in his college class at Brigham Young with a 3.97 GPA) is running circles around Perry in the "Thirty Second Sound Bite Game" that pass for "debates" in this day and age.
This week, the media is propping up Hermann Cain as the "Flavor of the Week" but, as Sarah said last night on Greta, the media does that for the sport of tearing that same candidate down two weeks after that.
Cain's Plan 999 will soon be dissected. The dangers of introducing a brand new tax drug (the first Federal Sales Tax ever) to a spending addicted Federal Government will come out. The fact that fixed income/low income seniors and low income workers earning $30,000 per year will get a 9% decrease in purchasing power will come out. The fact that those of us that have put in a lifetime of hard work and frugality will have our life savings next egg DOUBLE TAXED will come out. (Income Taxed once when we saved the money in the 1980's, the 1990's and the 2000's and then taxed AGAIN with a brand new 9% Federal Sales Tax when we spend it in 2014).
After that, Hermann Cain will no longer be the Flavor of the Week and the slick talking liberal with the 3.97 GPA who studied how to play the "Thirty Second Sound Bite Game" will have emerged as the GOP nominee after having played the Conservative Purists like a cheap fiddle.
And, no, Sarah is not coming to the rescue. After last night's interview with Greta, that is becoming more and more evident.
Maybe the Prefect Candidate would be an eloquent Marco Rubio, with more gray hairs and with Perry's 11 years of executive as Governor of a major state.
But, let me check ..... No, it seems that Marco Rubio does not pass the Conservative Purity test either.
We all know Jeb was next in line for POTUS. If he thought he had a chance he'd be in there now----but I think his absence has more to do with GWB's colossal foreign policy flops.
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