This is no place for a fence, unless you build it on the Mexican side of the border and are willing to go to war over it.
Posted on 09/28/2011 4:01:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
NEW YORK (AP)— Chief executives of several major corporations, including Hewlett-Packard, Boeing, Disney and News Corp., are joining Mayor Michael Bloomberg to form a coalition advocating for immigration reform – including a path to legal status for all undocumented immigrants now in the United States
You are going to get amnesty shoved down your throat whether you like it or not. You are enabling Romney who will do what he is told (BTW Romney was pro-amnesty before the last run, he switched his position right before McCain switched his and we all know how solid those positions were)
I don’t like Perry or Romney. But if Rick Perry was trying to win an election in Massachusetts, do you really think he wouldn’t be every bit as liberal as Romney, and worse? At least on the national stage, Romney is running as a conservative. Perry and his freaks are defending giving illegal aliens $100,000 tuition breaks, the state forcing STD treatments on 11 year olds, and the nations’ worst and largest eminent-domain abuses. AND THAT’S WITH A TEXAS ELECTORATE.
My God, could you imagine how he’d govern Massachusetts? He’d be demanding prostitutes give away taxpayer-funded free heroin samples in 3rd-grade classes! (Yes, folks, THAT’S what hyperbole means.)
This is no place for a fence, unless you build it on the Mexican side of the border and are willing to go to war over it.
ANSWER Texas Law Offers Financial Aid and In-State Tuition to Undocumented. The federal government offers financial aid under Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA). Anyone can apply, even with a forged Social Security number.
NOTE THAT: Illegals have been willing to use forged documents and to falsify official applications (a felony). The bottom line is that illegals get taxpayers to subsidize college for their kids. No word on the loan default rate. Ricky won't tell, that's for sure.
A key question Perry failed to tell American is the number of identities legals and illegals are using.
Jose Madrigal, the Washington state rapist, had some 30 identities.
All of them riding the US gravy train. All of them cashing numerous
govt checks. And, as Perry knows well---all of the identities are voting.
Illegals are more likely to be collecting government checks than picking crops......despite the incessant latino-as-victim propaganda. One illegal used several identities obtained with forged documents to collect some $3.5 million unemployment checks..........and was convicted of identity theft.
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Where are you going to build this fence on the Texas border? You gonna build it in the middle of the Rio Grande? On the Mexican side? Where?
THE LUCRATIVE PHONY ID BUSINESS---DALLAS BROTHER OFFER FORGED DOCUMENTS FOR A PRICE July 21, 2006 -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity.
The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police.
Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution from savage drug cartels operating in the US.
The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout.
L/E approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately. The Texas brothers consented to a search.
Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.
All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 fake Social Security cards. ####
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REFERENCE---illegals use numerous fake identities b/c they know it makes them harder to track. They got scams galore......they could be using one identity for in-state tuition, another to apply for legal status, and several more to ride the US gravy train. "Impoverished" illegals establish multiple identities by buying forged and falsified documents for several thousand dollars.
DID YOU KNOW? Apparently, TX doesn’t require US citizenship to achieve state residency. Then the tuition debate boils down to a legal residency debate........a non-US resident should not be able to obtain state citizenship anywhere until they are a legal US citizen. Subsidized in-state college tuition should require legal citizenship of both the Nation and the state because the fed/govt subsidizes the tuition....... this is in every tax-paying citizen’s interest.
Rick Perry says fences work in urban areas but that a 1200 mile Texas-Mexico wall, and then a wall 800 more miles to San Diego will not work as advertized (terrain, length, not secure unless completely monitored). He wants drones for Intel and boots on the ground.
Beyond that, the Feds do nothing of consequence when they overstay if here legally, or picked up and found to be illegal -- the Feds really, actively assist them in avoiding return. A wall is just a bandaid. In truth it will solve nothing. Perry has studied using drones in Israel -- they use walls too (as Perry says do work in urban areas but Israel security relies on drones).
There are better ways to stop this flow of people. Including, as Perry has said, "a conservative ascendancy." Get rid of the draw -- the "social justice" programs without throwing Hispanics into the Democratic Party.
But Perry is not for amnesty and has said that the border MUST BE SEALED before anything else can come to the table. He's seen how the trick of allowing citizenship is followed by an unguarded border - time and time again. So he will not "play" that game again.
Just so ya know, some of us understood that you aren’t in the Romney camp, just saying what he said about Perry in this case was true.
The Perry camp should contact the McCain campaign and see if ‘Better than Romney’ is available to use...it worked so well for them...and us...
Please provide a link to that.
McCain could barely scrape up a few dollars in Texas during the 2008 campaign.
Lol ! The crazy train has arrived with a shipment of spam !
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You always want a link, OK here is a link.
I know you watched the debates and saw perry call every conservative "heartless" if we didn't agree with his position that ILLEGAL ALIENS deserved tax payers money for their college tuition.
I know saw perry say, repeatedly that he is against building a fence {because it makes it too hard for the ILLEGAL ALIENS to get into Texas}.
If fences don't work why do they put them up around prisons?
Perry is weak on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, and because you switched over to back him, it's a hard pill to swallow.
Sorry, but he is what he is.
This argument they are using is like that of a child:
"Come on mom and dad, let me do _ _ _ _ (fill in the blank) because everyone else is doing it."
"So what if their illegal alien parents broke the law to come to America; so what if their parents committed a felony because they had to STEAL an American CITIZEN'S identity and Social Security number to get a job. So what if they and their illegal alien parents continue to break the law by claiming to be someone they are not or by working under the table, and taking jobs from American citizens by the millions while paying NO taxes. So what if while paying no taxes these same ILLEGAL aliens and their children are also availing themselves of all sorts of health care, welfare benefits and in-state tuition to the tune of hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars that should be going to American citizens who are PAYING FOR IT ALL! " So what it they are breaking the law by driving without a drivers license, without the car being registered so that if they get pulled over they are given a legal slap on the wrist and sent on their way knowing full-well that they will totally ignore the ticket and never make their court appearance "... So what if they are driving without car insurance so WHEN, not IF the hit someone or kill someone the injured American citizen will have to pay for the repairs and health recovery with their own car insurance."
"SO WHAT?... They are ILLEGAL ALIENS, they are and represent, the future voting block and MY future constituents who will put ME in to political power and keep ME in power."
"As for all you little American citizen shmucks who are having your jobs taken, your identities stolen, your tax money squandered, and who ultimately have to PAY FOR AND PUT UP WITH ALL OF THIS injustice;... DON'T BE SO 'HEARTLESS'; sit down, shut up and take it! WHY? Because: "HISPANIC ILLEGAL aliens come first!"
This is the exact position and attitude of our vaunted politicians, "elected officials" and the main-stream, leftist, communist, socialist, Marxist, "main-stream media."
Is it any wonder why honest, hard working American citizens who have played by the rules all their lives and are continually getting the shaft, are totally up in arms and have finally said "Enough is enough, this pandering to ILLEGAL ALIENS has got to stop and it has got to stop NOW!" "We will not support or vote for ANYONE who continues to coddle illegal aliens and give them 'rights' and benefits that rightly, morally and legally belong to American citizens alone!"
FYI I detest Mittens.
Your {..........} is strictly your biased editorializing.
Fences! Fix the problem man. Don't wall it off. If drones work and more boots on the ground and fences in urban areas work, why don't you want to do that?
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Imho, a fence is better than exposing our people to danger. Why do you want to do that? Are our people more expendable?
THEN-COMPLAIN-TO-THE-FEDERAL-GOVERNMENT!
They're telling the states how to treat children of illegals from K-12. Then what? The Federal government doesn't give a rats ass about states dealing with this or the illegal Mexicans in the U.S. or the children brought into the U.S. illegal. This is a crisis for the Feds and the Democratic Party to exploit. Perry and other states are trying to play the hand the Feds have dealt the states (and it's a stacked deck) until someone stops the insanity of an unsecured border. That someone is Rick Perry!
Drones work in war zones, why are they unacceptable to you on our 2000 international border with Mexico?
A wall is a bandaid, a false sense of security and useless, except in urban areas. A big 2000 mile long iron curtain? You want that instead?
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