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Rick Perry’s Immigration Problem vs. Mitt Romney’s Healthcare Problem
RedState ^ | 27th September 2011 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 09/27/2011 4:39:10 PM PDT by shield

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To: smoothsailing

That is funny...Pauliwogs...what a great sense of humor you have...do you just think funny?


61 posted on 09/27/2011 6:45:58 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield

Thank you, that is a very nice compliment! :)


62 posted on 09/27/2011 7:22:15 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: shield

People say it isn’t possible mainly because they have been told by politicians who don’t want illegals deported that it isn’t possible. If we made it a priority it could be done. Eisenhower did it. Nevertheless, I agree that we need to cut off all social welfare benefits to illegals and deny them work to the greatest extent possible.


63 posted on 09/27/2011 7:40:57 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000

Of course they’d try and tell us that. Cut off all Fed money to the illegals...if the states choose to continue then let those states who choose go broke like California..and no bailout for any state. Lock down the borders...let ‘em self deport...then cut welfare benefits to those Americans looking for a handout go to work. There will be jobs when the wetbacks leave.


64 posted on 09/27/2011 7:57:39 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: PapaNew

” At least with illegal immigration, we’re still around to fight another day. “

See if you can guess why California went from a State that elected Ronald Reagan Governor to a State that elects only left wing Democrats.


65 posted on 09/27/2011 8:05:32 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: shield

Oh, believe me, I find the thought of voting for Mittens repulsive. However, I would do it to help defeat Obama. I think he is electable. On a scale of 1-10, I would say he rates a 3 as a conservative, but has an 8 for electability. Gingrich is probably the reverse. IMHO of course.


66 posted on 09/27/2011 9:29:32 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Cain/Gingrich)
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To: smoothsailing

Thank you! I agree with you entirely. Perry was badgered by the moderators in all three debates and Romney, Bachmann, and Santorum were allowed to pile on instead of answering questions for themselves.


67 posted on 09/27/2011 9:31:26 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: Will88

Perry does NOT favor open borders. You obviously know nothing about TX or you would not be spouting this garbage. I give up! You simply are not informed, as evidenced by the comments you have made. I am from TX and know what he does and what he stands for. Your comments is a misrepresentation.


68 posted on 09/27/2011 9:34:10 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: Grey Eagle

I’ve read many things about what Perry has and hasn’t done. and what he favors and what he opposes related to immigration, and it all adds up to open borders, no matter what he or anyone else chooses to call it.

And this Texas viewpoint is half the problem because that is not the Texas/Mexico border, but the US/Mexico border. Perry is little different than Bush on border security matters.

Being from Texas seems to be a problem when it comes to addressing illegal immigration for the nation as a whole. Most all border state governors and senators are weak on illegal immigration in one aspect or another. Not good for the US as a whole.


69 posted on 09/27/2011 10:02:04 PM PDT by Will88
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To: shield
In-State Tuition Debate Isn't About In-State Tuition (It's about AMNESTY)
70 posted on 09/28/2011 7:51:55 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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In-State Tuition Debate Isn't About In-State Tuition (It's about AMNESTY)
71 posted on 09/28/2011 7:52:30 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
duh duh duh, that is as ridiculous of a statement as I've read lately at FR...Here is what a FReeper living on the Mexico Texas Border has said:

Perry's not kidding about the Ranger Interdiction Team. We live in the Valley and from whatever point A is - point B - before they fly the Black Hawks low over the river is our roof. Perry and his team are all that stands between us and being over run by the cartels, and we surely appreciate that.

72 posted on 09/28/2011 7:58:16 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Will88

Your homepage does not say where you are from. You are aware that the border between Texas and Mexico is a river aren’t you? A fence on our side would end Texans use of the river but would not stop the illegals climbing over it. Surely you have seen the night vision videos of the illegal climbers.

Texas cattle drink from that river and the native game animals do the same. A fence does not make sense in most places there. Perry is not in favor of illegal immigration, it is stupid to suggest that he is. He has spent millions of Texas taxpayer dollars on the border and has asked for fed help which was ignored.


73 posted on 09/28/2011 9:34:48 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
All that has been posted here many times in recent weeks. It's always good to state that the border is the US/Mexico border and not the Texas/Mexico border.

And I expect most of the water problems that double fencing might cause could be solved. But it is pretty amazing to see one person after another - presumably with a straight face - post as if allowing the cattle on the border direct access to the river is more important than border security and national security for a nation of 300+ million.

If this nation is still capable of exercising one lick of common sense, water for cattle and the free movement of animals will some day become a distant second to securing the southern border against all the problems that cross it with little to complicate the illegal crossings. Such posts illustrate better than anything else could why we do not need another Texan in the White House.

74 posted on 09/28/2011 2:21:04 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

I hope our southern border gets secured and how ever they do it I hope it works. Building a fence is a simplistic and very expensive idea and the night vision videos prove it doesn’t work.


75 posted on 09/28/2011 3:05:08 PM PDT by Ditter
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The video proves nothing. What will work is double fencing, adequate BP and the use of electronic devices, and drones, etc.

Fencing alone won’t work.

Personnel alone won’t work (and no president would ever put adequate personnel on the border 24/7/365, the most expensive method of all).

And a super-duper, state-of-the-art, “Virtual Fence” sure as heck won’t work as W’s experiment proved and was later abandoned after more than a billion was wasted.


76 posted on 09/28/2011 3:19:26 PM PDT by Will88
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I hope that when our next president takes office in 2013 that you will personally present him with a fool proof plan that will please everyone. I am sure you can do that.
77 posted on 09/28/2011 4:20:57 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
I hope that when our next president takes office in 2013 that you will personally present him with a fool proof plan that will please everyone. I am sure you can do that

The Secure Fence Act of 2006 presented a great plan to get things started, but a certain president from Texas and his DHS director did everything they could to deceive the public and avoid compliance with the law.

And then after two or three years of ruses and non-compliance, a certain female senator from Texas slipped language in legislation to remove the requirement that a fence actually be built.

One of the best things that could happen concerning border security would be to get Texas and other border state politicians as far from the decisions making as possible. And don't put another Texan in the White House.

How to greatly improve border security is well known. It's that some want to put local concerns above the national security needs of an entire nation, and others want no improved border security at all for various reasons.

78 posted on 09/29/2011 3:35:32 AM PDT by Will88
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