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Governor Rick Perry and Illegal Immigration: Jobs, Benefits, and Federal Policy
Big Government ^ | 9-27-2011 | Chuck DeVore

Posted on 09/27/2011 2:51:19 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: casinva
just wondering what is wrong with your own home state's colleges

I agree . . . can't see any reason to go out of state when each state has a bevy of adequate colleges. Of that, I'll never understand.

81 posted on 09/27/2011 4:19:27 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: TexMom7

But he can sure give them in state tuition.


82 posted on 09/27/2011 4:20:39 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yer it!")
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To: Marty62

I kind of think a lot of people say they are all for 10th Amendment states’ rights until a state does something another state doesn’t like. Funny how that goes.

My thought on that is that our federal government has positioned itself into so much of our country and in our lives that we don’t even understand or appreciate states’ rights and liberty anymore.

And it wasn’t JUST Obama doing that, although he has certainly benefited from our desensitization of this Constitutional vision.


83 posted on 09/27/2011 4:22:00 PM PDT by casinva (I look at every lie and misrepresentation as a glorious opportunity to get the truth out even more.)
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To: casinva

I heard a discussion today about American Students total lack of lack of knowledge of our founding and why we fought for independence.

Americans have turned over the edu of our students to the Dept of Edu and our children are downright stupid.

If you don’t know where you came from how do you know where you are going?
even the illegal students hopefully would gain a love for this country and WANT to be good Citizens.
We HAVE to end these dangerous (to our Freedom) depts. EPA, EDU etc.
The States MUST demand the Rights back that the Federal Government has stolen.


84 posted on 09/27/2011 4:35:48 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: laweeks

You claimed that illegals were getting “preferential” treatment. Of course, they’re not.

The reason they are not deported is because the federal courts have forbidden it.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12010798883027065807&hl=en&as_sdt=2&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr

Back in 1982, the US Supreme Court ruled on attempts in Texas to either keep the children of illegals out of the schools or charge them tuition. The Supreme Court forbids all school districts from even noticing when a child is illegal. Every child is supposed to have a Social Security number, but somehow illegals don’t need one. They get school based health care, free meals, and that free education.


85 posted on 09/27/2011 4:36:45 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org I'm not afraid to use my mustard seed. 2 Control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: shield
The heartless remark was over the top. But I'm really confounded by all the hurt feelings shown by “so-called” hardcore rightwingers here on FR. I thought we ALL had thicker skins then that.

After today I'm almost at the point of considering many of those who attack Perry on his less then ideal immigration stance, nothing but a bunch of nativists. Even though its not possible, they want to deport ALL the illegals and probably kick out the legal ones too.

They want Perry out of the way too. Keep the decks cleared for Sarah Palin. Woohoo! ;^)

86 posted on 09/27/2011 4:38:14 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: laweeks

Who knows. You would think that 50 states are incapable of providing their residents adequate colleges.


87 posted on 09/27/2011 4:38:41 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: federal__reserve
Is Santorum really that ignorant?

Yeah.

But I still wish he were my senator instead of Little Bobby Casey.

88 posted on 09/27/2011 4:40:36 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Sudetenland

Look slow one, do not rewrite what I said and then call it a lie. The illegal under law is not entitled to the education, there fore you have reduced the illegals fees. That is a subsidy. And take your itty bitty computer and look up how much money is transfere to the states each year from the department of education. Texas gets in the hundreds of millions each year. So if there is any lying, and/or disinformation here, it comes from you.


89 posted on 09/27/2011 4:40:46 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: ari-freedom

That “as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles,” followed by a bunch of requirements that are solely Mexico’s problems, is a very polite, diplomatic way of saying, “When hell freezes over.”


90 posted on 09/27/2011 4:43:03 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org I'm not afraid to use my mustard seed. 2 Control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: hocndoc
The reason they are not deported is because the federal courts have forbidden it.

Then they should be ignored! They should be sent back to Mexico to go to their wonderful colleges!

But for the governor to call me a heartless racist for wanting Americans to be treated fairly is disgusting. He lost my vote completely. I don't really care what his excuse is!

91 posted on 09/27/2011 4:43:30 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Obama has been one of our most effective presidents regarding illegal immigration.

He's tanked our economy so badly they just aren't coming here like they have been.

92 posted on 09/27/2011 4:43:30 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: hocndoc

Another lie, the bs decision applied to grades K-12. But they can still be deported.


93 posted on 09/27/2011 4:44:24 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: ari-freedom

That’s where you’re wrong. That quote came from a debate, when K. Bailey was trying to deflect her lack of work on securing the border and referred strictly to Texas State employees. The State of Texas uses another system, just as effective.


94 posted on 09/27/2011 4:46:59 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org I'm not afraid to use my mustard seed. 2 Control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: Happy Rain
He did not give them anything, the Texas Legislature gave them lower in state tuition just like all Texas higher education students.

Apparently you haven't been reading the whole thread because there is a viable reason for it that you missed that was pointed out by Shield and Sacajaweau. See post 10 & 13.

95 posted on 09/27/2011 4:48:04 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: Reagan Man
It is unfortunate but they remind me of the DU'ers. Some of their remarks are elementary type thinking. The name calling is a sign they've lost.

Here is Herman Cain on immigration and it is almost identical to Perry's. No deportation, road to citizenship, lockdown the borders, etc.

In a final op-ed, Herman Cain noted his opposition to the 2007 Comprehensive Immigration reform plan and noted four things that congress could do concerning immigration. These items were to secure the borders convincingly, expand the temporary worker program for skilled legal immigrants, establish a reliable legal immigrant identification program and then propose a reasonable program for the 12 million (and counting) illegal persons who broke our laws to get here, but not amnesty.

In additional interviews, Mr Cain stated that comprehensive immigration reform was a "do nothing" policy which would not solve the problem of illegal immigration. He stated that a Cain administration would do three things: secure the border; enforce the laws; promote the existing path to citizenship.

96 posted on 09/27/2011 4:50:41 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: org.whodat

But only by the Federal Government not a state.


97 posted on 09/27/2011 4:52:12 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: org.whodat

But it is taxes that Texans paid to the Federal Government plus Texas pays more in Federal Taxes than it gets back.


98 posted on 09/27/2011 4:58:33 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: laweeks
1. Declare there will be no amnesty for illegal aliens...period...they must return to their home country and apply for legal immigration,
2. Build the fence and secure the border air tight,
3. Mandatory jail terms for employers hiring illegal workers,
4. Those who did not self-deport who are later apprehended and deported lose all future possibility of applying for legal immigration,
5. End birthright citizenship for children of illegals, tourists, and temporary workers

Problem solved. The problem is that I can never trust Perry to implement even one of the above steps, based on his past statements and actions. Heck, I don't trust ANY of the candidates to implement this sort of action and that's why I'm finding this election season very frustrating.

99 posted on 09/27/2011 5:00:43 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: TexMom7
Did Perry try to stop it?

Then he is on record as agreeing to in-state college tuition for illegal aliens.

The law says K-12 for illegal aliens,Perry says what the heck lets give the little criminals a break since a high school education is not enough to reward their parents for sneaking in--and hey,more will try to break in when they hear about this and we will reward them too.

100 posted on 09/27/2011 5:01:44 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yer it!")
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