Posted on 09/27/2011 2:51:19 PM PDT by smoothsailing
Perry can easily defend himself on the instate tuition for illegals but calling those who oppose as “heartless” was the dumb part.
My state has prohibited in-state tuition for illegal immigrants (Virginia). So we are one of the few where it actually IS illegal. As you said, most states practice a don’t ask, don’t tell policy. Texas by an overwhelming vote of their legislature decided to just make it above-board so they could control it.
And note that a lower percentage of illegals can get in-state tuition in Texas than can get it in those other 38 states. Because Texas, by legalizing it for illegals who made it through 3 years of high school with a B average, prohibits it for kids who are brought here illegally closer to college age, or who didn’t perform well in school.
That minimizes the change that people would bring their kids here just to get cheaper college. If you have a 17-year-old, and decide to sneak into this country to get an education, you will sneak into one of the 38 states that have no laws checking illegal status. You won’t go to Texas, because you won’t meet the law’s 3-year high school attendance requirement.
I don’t support in-state tuition for illegals, so I guess I’m heartless, but Texas is better than 38 other states, and it’s their own money and their own problem.
Never was a fan of Guliani due to his stance on the slaughter of our unborn American citizens. . . . But he'd've been far superior to the lame-brain that happens to reside in our White House.
But Cain would be better all around . . . and I can imagine how great it would be to have him toss Obambi around in a debate. Perry? Who's he?
You need a LEGAL student visa in order to enter the country.
It is given to only those who are admitted to a accredited place of learning by the government. And those foreign students are treated on equal basis as students from out of state. If there is student aid available to out of state students then it is probably available to the foreign students.
No nothing about on-line students. But they can not enter the country.
How about sealing the border and letting guest workers come in legally?
That law doesn’t apply to the Texas law, or the California law, because they aren’t based on residence, they are based on high school attendance.
And yes, ANY kid who attends 3 years of high school in Texas gets in-state tuition, and YES, there are out-of-state residents who meet that requirement and get in-state tuition.
That law would theoretically stop illegals in other states, except you have to actively check for illegal status, and most states do not, so the illegals slip through like they slip through for jobs.
Are you telling me Palin is running, fine the more the better, where is the news link. Otherwise, she said that when she ran with McCain and she lost.
I can't imagine how you can easily defend giving illegal aliens any kind of treatment other than removal from our borders. Doesn't the word illegal mean anything to you? I can't get past that word . . . illegal
Silly: he said that we don’t care about the sound of their names. You should not put quotes around the phrase that is not a quote.
The Governor is more of a fiscal conservative than any other candidate. He has a proven pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-business and pro-individual and -State’s rights record than any other candidate or might-be-candidate.
You should hear him speak about life and marriage. He knows what he’s talking about, even on esoteric subjects like cloning and embryonic stem cells. He regularly shows up and is the keynote speaker at pro-life, pro-marriage and pro-freedom of religion events.
“How about sealing the border and letting guest workers come in legally?”
I’m all for sealing the border but Perry wants them open.
“President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity.”
http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/
Many other states have adopted the same legislation.
What he is saying is that, in many states, the state asks for RESIDENCE Information, but not for papers. So if a kid’s parents are illegal, but have lived in the state, they can prove residency, and the kid gets in-state tuition.
I can’t find any good web pages that provide information on how many illegals are getting in-state tuition in each of the states. Maryland was reported to have some number of illegals, during the debate to pass a law making it legal, but I can’t find anything to verify that claim (like a study done by someone who didn’t support the law).
There is a reason that states are passing laws prohibiting in-state tuition for illegals. If your assertion was correct, no state would have to pass such a law. We passed the law in Virginia, so that people had to prove their legal status. Until we passed that law, illegals WERE getting in-state tuition in our colleges.
You don't really care what Perry has done to enforce illegal immigration. You'd rather be disruptive for your own means. Since you say you went to college on the GI bill, I believe you could express yourself in a more constructive way.
I don't care how old they have to be . . . are they illegal or not? . . . If so, why the holy hell are they not being rounded up and deported? What's the argument?
Americans have much easier residency requirements than illegals
Well, of course . . . they're American citizens!
“You need a LEGAL student visa in order to enter the country.”
yes, it was just an informational request. I wanted to know if there was also a requirement to show your visa in order to attend college or do they just assume you already had one since you needed it just to enter the country?
That statement is telling me Perry was telling Fox "hey, an open border is great, we have one with Canada but not at the expense of you flooding us with your impoverished citizenry."
I think you just helped Perry with that post. Thanks.
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