Illegal Immigration Collapse

Wall Street Journal ^ | 9/24/11 | editors

[Eva]

To listen to the recent Republican Presidential debates, you'd think illegal immigration was the biggest threat to the U.S. economy—not to mention to the rule of law, our social fabric and national security. We hate to spoil the political reverie, but the real immigration story these days is how many fewer illegal migrants are trying to get into the land of the free.

That's the news from the Department of Homeland Security, which reports that border apprehensions have dropped to their lowest level in nearly 40 years. For fiscal 2010, arrests were 463,000, down from 724,000 in 2008—a one-third decline in two years.

[Arrowhead1952]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2782527/posts?page=96#96

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Those who support RINOs AND attack other posters AND/OR attack FR while doing so are definitely subject to the zot. And, sorry to burst your bubble, but with every passing debate Perry is proving himself to be an anti-liberty RINO. He’s now doubling down on stupid with his democrat-like attacks on tea party people regarding our refusal to go along with his support of taxpayer subsidies for illegal aliens. And you’re doubling down on stupid for supporting his obvious lies regarding his attempted governance by decree on the vaccination of 12 year old girls fiasco. You should both walk away from attempting to defend the indefensible. Romney is a mandate-loving statist POS, but Perry isn’t proving out to be much better. A pox on them both. And if you continue your attacks on our posters or our conservative causes or our website due to our not bending to the will of the RINOs then a pox on you too.

And I will thank you to mind your own business about the way I manage my website. If you don’t like it, vote with your feet. Continue as you are and I will vote with mine.

96 posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 5:22:16 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)

[Travis McGee]

That was just a little baby zot that came out of this daddy zot.

(One of many great pics of a volcano in Chile last year.)

[Travis McGee]

I can think of a lot of citizens who are actual communist revolutionaries or islamic jihad maniacs bent on the total destruction of our constitutional republic that I’d personally IMHO like to see deported.

Does that mean I’ll be banned?

[Travis McGee]

Demography is destiny. There won’t be 50 states in 50 years, in my opinion. Maybe not even 25 years.

They won’t be part of Mexico, most likely they will be a separate Chican-Raza-Aztlan homeland...run by the bloody drug cartels and carved up like Christmas hams.

[lentulusgracchus]

if Texas goes majority Latino and the way they vote..we are done as a nation

People take Texas in the Republican column every four years for granted. Just watch Texas start to swing, and the fur will fly! White Shoe Sissycrats from Manhattan's Connecticut Regency will discover to their dismay that they have to campaign down here among the horned frogs and armadillos and rattlesnakes and copperheads and crackerheads ...... oh, the horror! The horror!

Yeah, I can just see them now in their white suits, putting sugar on their grits like Nelson "my finger to all of you" Rockefeller that time in Georgia .... that's all it takes, Stoopid .... But actually, the Latin business isn't so bad (Central Americans and South Americans give Republicans a 50/50 split, usually), it's the fact that we're dealing with very stubborn, "mi padre vayo con PRI" Tejanos here who will give the 'Rats a 70% split, every damned time, for three or four generations in a row.

We need about 5,000,000 Cubanos in here PDQ, to balance off those Socialist Mexicans.

Otherwise, we've got to turn off the spigot and start tuning our immigration policy to start importing more "underrepresented" nationalities -- like Israelis, and South Africans, and Australians, and Rhodesian farmers who are being murdered on their farms, but for their skin. People who can speak English, can appreciate the patrimony, and will actually fight for it -- Ron Rescorla comes to mind (we should be so lucky!)

Folks like that. We get to pick, after all. And the Aussies do get very picky (their heritage as a prison colony), and they make no apologies for it.

[lentulusgracchus]

Protoss earned the zot for saying that CITIZENS should be stripped of their CITIZENSHIP and deported.

Actually, there is a case to be made for that, in cases of fraudulent swearing-in, fraudulent application for citizenship, criminality, and so on.

I think quite a few friends of Bloomberg's in New York might qualify ..... and pals of our frenemy Prince Waleed (Mr. $10-million-if-you-'fess-up 9/11 Insult himself), for example. People associated with Hamas and Wahhabism and victory mosques and crescents around the Shankville monument. People like that. Come for the jihad, stay for the Sharia type folks.

[Eva]

Homosexuality is a much larger issue than anyone wants to admit, mainly because so much of the media is personally involved. Rick Santorum would be higher in the polls than he is, if it were not for the homosexual lobby.

[Eva]

I am not defending Perry. I am pointing out that attacking any Republican during the primary is doing the Democrat’s job for them and enables Romney.

Since you and your fellow libertarians seem bent on knocking off Perry, the result will be a stronger Romney, because that is who the media has decided should be the GOP nominee. The media are ready to crown Romney because he is the most “moderate” of the group.

[lentulusgracchus]

rustbucket, what are the black datapoints?

I don't see them explained.

And what are the envelope parameters of each discrete packet? Precincts or wards? Ethnographic subgroups?

It does seem that Hispanic voters are an outlier off-trend, and they swung about 40 points toward the GOP when the candidate was Hispanic. I think that had to be Orlando Sanchez for mayor (he was Cuban-American and cringeworthily close to the Bush family -- Poppy even did cringey ads for him) in 2003, and Antonio Sanchez ("de Santa Anna") for Governor, the year Sue Schecter and Debra Danburg and Molly Yard had that brilliant idea to make the top of the statewide ticket all-minority except for Lt. Governor. It was a catastrophe; the Yaller Dogs in East Texas stayed home, and Sanchez and his MeChista-influenced buddies went down like the Hindenburg.

Your graphic displays the guts of the Rove-Bush calculation. Which is to nominate Hispanics defensively, to get that 40-point swing. Which overlooks that you are still giving the Democrats a 60-point share! And most of your swing, I'll warrant, is coming from (as I've said before) Central and South Americans, not the bullheaded Tejanos, who might better be called PRIistas.

[lentulusgracchus]

I am pointing out that attacking any Republican during the primary is doing the Democrat’s job for them and enables Romney.

Bandwagon appeal -- argumentum ad populum, 10,000 Perrybots can't be wrong.

Please tell that to Ed Rollins, would you? He loves to lash out at conservatives, and Tea Party people especially. We should all take your advice, says Ed, and SHUT UP and just vote for the candidate the New York lawyers agree on.

[lentulusgracchus]

Rick Santorum would be higher in the polls than he is sitting in the United States Senate, if it were not for the homosexual lobby.

There, fixed it.

And I include Karl Rove in that comment.

[Eva]

I doubt that the plan was to send the Blacks to Panama against their will or as slaves.

One of my ancestors was among the founders of the anti-slavery Republican party in the state of NY and had no such plans for “negroes”. Instead, he hired two to work on his property in NY, as free men.

I had another ancestor who actually did work on the Panama canal as a train engineer. He loved it.

[lentulusgracchus]

"Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security....."

Those damned Latvian illegals, at it again!

Wait .... they weren't....?

Who knew?!

[lentulusgracchus]

I doubt that the plan was to send the Blacks to Panama against their will or as slaves.

You don't think so? Fine. But the historians would disagree, who've looked into this idea.

You don't get 2,000,000 or 1,000,000 or 500,000 of anybody to go to a fever-infested jungle by just asking them.

[Eva]

The establishment candidate is Romney. Frankly, I’m not really a Perry fan, either. I just believe that a candidate should be allowed to fail on their own, without being attacked by our own people.

When Perry is set up in debate after debate as the target, it throws the whole debate off the real target and takes time away from the other candidates.

It was only by luck and determination that Santorum and Caine were able to get some of their plans across in that last debate.

Perry’s performance would have done him in, whether or not he was being attacked.

[lentulusgracchus]

There are, however, jobs Americans won’t do for the pay the employer is offering.

No employer ever wants to pay market, if he thinks he can get bottom-feeders to do the job for starvation wages.

I've seen it, and I got that lecture from my boss 40 years ago.

The business failed after his boss, Mr. Greedy, did a shakeout of the senior employees anywhere near retirement age. They were the ones who knew what they were doing -- oops.

[lentulusgracchus]

The establishment candidate is Romney.

Not for long. He's visibly failing.

[lentulusgracchus]

When Perry is set up in debate after debate as the target, it throws the whole debate off the real target and takes time away from the other candidates.

That's a good point, but it's a given when LSM media slugs are involved (even Fox put in smartass Chris Wallace, who's buddies with one of the evening talk-radio jocks, Hugh Hewitt), that they will try to drive the debate.

That is the problem with involving Media: The Tea Party and other debate sponsors want Media for dissemination of the debate content, but in return they give up control of the agenda and message flow.

Old Michigan Democratic congressman John Dingell once said about legislative conferences, "I'll give you content and you give me procedure, and I'll screw you every time."

That's what is going on here. Unless and until people like the Tea Party Express get to choose who their moderators are, Media Progs are going to do everything they can to screw up the debates and present all of the candidates in an unflattering -- or as you pointed out in a couple of cases -- nonexistent light.

[Eva]

I sure hope so, because I just don’t trust him.

[rustbucket]

The black dots were a subset of other precincts whose votes were reported by the paper. There are so many precincts in Houston that I decided to do only a subset. I looked up the locations of the precincts I plotted. I was able to identify the principal ethnic/racial/economic makeup of some of the districts from what I know of the city but not most. In some cases, the paper identified black and Hispanic districts by precinct.

I cross plotted the votes of the same precincts from different elections. The precincts whose ethnic/racial/economic status I couldn't identify or whose makeup was probably mixed are the black dots.

The 2003 mayoral elections was complicated by the fact that it was a three-man race and involved the toy train issue. There was a black (Sylvester Turner), a white Democrat (Bill White), and the Republican Orlando Sanchez, a Cuban. Bill White was promising to build the street level light rail through and close some of the affluent white neighborhoods close to downtown (West University). That helped tilt their vote toward White. If you'll remember, they kept changing where the train would go before the election to increase the vote for White. At least, that is what I thought they were doing. The votes for the train project correlated positively with the votes for White. Sanchez opposed the train.