Posted on 09/25/2011 2:22:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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....What's going on?
"The desire to disbelieve deepens as the scale of the threat grows," concludes economist-ethicist Clive Hamilton.
He and others who track what they call "denialism" find that its nature is changing in America, last redoubt of climate naysayers. It has taken on a more partisan, ideological tone. Polls find a widening Republican-Democrat gap on climate. Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry even accuses climate scientists of lying for money. Global warming looms as a debatable question in yet another U.S. election campaign.
From his big-windowed office overlooking the wooded campus of the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, N.Y., Broecker has observed this deepening of the desire to disbelieve.
"The opposition by the Republicans has gotten stronger and stronger," the 79-year-old "grandfather of climate science" said in an interview. "But, of course, the push by the Democrats has become stronger and stronger, and as it has become a more important issue, it has become more polarized."
The solution: "Eventually it'll become damned clear that the Earth is warming and the warming is beyond anything we have experienced in millions of years, and people will have to admit..." He stopped and laughed.
"Well, I suppose they could say God is burning us up."
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(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
A Deep Faith in What's Been Proved (Obama by the numbers - Perry by faith) "............The divide between the empiricists and the believers is also the fault line between the highly educated, technologically adept super-elite and the squeezed and scared middle class. But those hoi polloi voters, who, in 2012, as they were in 2008, seem to be drawn to politicians with big ideas and strong beliefs, may also be responding to something even bigger than this cognitive divide.
We are today, as we were in 2008, living through an unprecedented crisis. The economies of the Western world are sick, and the international balance of power is shifting. To be driven by data is an admirable thing. But when you find yourself in dangerous and uncharted waters, there is no data to guide you.........."
“Keep bringing it up!”
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Well, of course, but most idiot voters have no idea about climate, and listen only to the MSM telling them that we are all gonna die because of man’s evil lifestyles.
While I was in Slovakia, working as an English conversation tutor in businesses and banks, I had a lot of fun using the
“Gorebal” warming topic.
Cohen doesn’t hold a very high opinion of the Texas governor, of anyone who doesn’t buy into the notion of a looming global man-made global warming disaster, or of Republicans. Referring to Perry in an Aug. 22 Washington Post article, he opined “It’s not his thinking I fear, it’s the lack of any at all.”
Cohen observed that “[Perry] occupies the cultural and intellectually empty heartland of the Republican party.” The article scorned Perry for publicly stating that he stood with an increasing number of scientists who have challenged the existence of man-made global warming threats, commenting “…whoever they (italics noted) might be. In Appleton, Wis., Sen. Joe McCarthy’s skeleton rattled a bit.” His reference to McCarthy went on to elaborate that “The late and hardly lamented demagogue pioneered the use of the concocted statistic” in suggesting that communists were literally everywhere. He further amplified “There were some, of course, just as there are some scientists who are global warming skeptics, but these few – about 2% of climate researchers – could hold their annual meeting in a phone booth, if there are any left. (Perhaps 2% of scientists think they are).”
This would require a pretty big phone booth,.....
Since 2007 more than 31,000 American scientists from diverse climate-related disciplines, including more than 9,000 with Ph.D.s, have signed a public petition announcing their belief that “…there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause...
Priceless! And so effective.
The heat is cutting into wheat yields,
BS. What messed up wheat farming this year, at least here, was the flooding. Not from rainfall, so much, but from last winter's record snowfall melting (Well, I guess that involves heat--we call it Spring).
An awful lot of farmland was flooded out from the Dakotas on down the Missouri and Mississippi, and in the Durum belt up by Minot, ND.
Some of that cropland stayed under water well into August. (Give the Corps of Engineers a hat tip, too, they 'managed' the rivers.
As for extra CO2 in the seas, plants use it to make extra phytoplankton, and critters will use it to create shells of CaCO3 (calcium carbonate).
As limestone layers full of shells around the world will attest, this probably isn't the first time, but we have yet to find a fossil SUV.
But the bottom line is one of whether mankind's future is scratching out a bare and sometimes failing existence among small clusters of mud huts, or whether we will continue to survive as a species by using the technical capabilities we have.
If and when God wants to step in and end the world as we know it, I have a distinct feeling that it will be done in a singularly unambiguous manner, one which will not rely on cooked data sets to try to prove minute incremental warming.
Bump
Are you familiar with Lysenko?
The current count is 31,487 American Scientists who are opposed to Kyoto-like treaties. Hardly "settled science", and a wee bit shy of an AGW consensus.
In Texas Schools, Perry Shuns Federal Influence ………"When Secretary of Education Arne Duncan jabbed Mr. Perry on public schools in mid-August, it was only the latest skirmish between the governor and the Obama administration since late 2009, when Mr. Perry announced that the state would not sign on to common core-curriculum standards."...
Rick Perry is fighting the EPA regulation overreach. Texas and was the only state to not accept terms.
Rick Perry’s Air War (with the EPA)......."Texas alone opted for the unfriendly approach. It’s the only state that did not issue a plan for compliance—and Perry has made it clear that Texas has no intention of complying. The move was a blatant slap to the Obama administration—and once again gave Perry the national spotlight. Defying the climate rules offered him the perfect opportunity to loudly decry the science of global warming—which in his book Fed Up! he calls a “contrived phony mess that is falling apart under its own weight”—and to slam EPA as a “rogue agency” with an “activist mind-set” that has “targeted Texas.” Such rhetoric is viral catnip to the tea party voters who could help catapult Perry to the 2012 presidential nomination."....
Trial lawyers have painted a target on Rick Perry's back (lawsuit abuse reforms and "loser pays" have become a hallmark of Texas economic success).
Trial lawyers prep for war on Perry America’s trial lawyers are getting ready to make the case against one of their biggest targets in years: Texas Gov. Rick Perry.
Among litigators, there is no presidential candidate who inspires the same level of hatred – and fear – as Perry, an avowed opponent of the plaintiffs’ bar who has presided over several rounds of tort reform as governor.
And if Perry ends up as the Republican nominee for president, deep-pocketed trial lawyers intend to play a central role in the campaign to defeat him.
That’s a potential financial boon to a president who has unsettled trial lawyers with his own rhetorical gestures in the direction of tort reform. A general election pitting Barack Obama and Perry could turn otherwise apathetic trial lawyers into a phalanx of pro-Obama bundlers and super PAC donors. …..”
We could have the same here, if we just burn enough ethanol...
The fraud is subtly different, but the results would be similar. Only here, if such happens, in the name of the holy grail of CO2 emission reduction, people will also freeze to death in their homes and die from the heat in summer, and that's just the beginning.
I have a Mexican (one who refuses to assimilate to American way of life nor speak our language even though they can) living next door. Yesterday, I noticed a clear bag of water hanging from her patio ceiling.
Curiosity got the best of me so I researched the internet for an answer and found that it was a Latino belief if you hung a bag of water with a penny inside, the flies and mosquitoes would go away. This woman has some really strange religious visions and sightings on a regular basis.
Why do I post this? She is the “poster child” for the Democrat voter. She can be fooled, or scared, into believing anything told to her without question. This is the type of mentality that is forcing the belief of Global Warming or any other conjured up “SCARE” or stupid belief that is foisted upon them.
Consequently, they vote Democrat to save their own skins from these horrible specters that confront them each time they watch ABC, NBC, CBS and other liberal “scare” channels.
“You’re just afraid I’m right.” It was a great argument in junior high.
Thank goodness some other people recognize this pattern.
Lysenko was given free reign of terror over “wrong science thinking” and imprisoned and executed scientists who stood in opposition to his crank agrarian theories. And millions died. And his theory was picked up by other countries and it took decades for this to be “discredited.”
Lefitists [now warmists] recognized it for the useful tool it was and adopted it [environmentalism-green-climate disruption] as their new “friendly face” after communism was “defeated.”
Recognizing the pattern is inescapable if you know history.
THE END OF THE WORLD IS UPON US!
If a fly can’t relax, it goes elsewhere. Or something like that.
“I’ve seen a few flies,” he said, standing outside the restaurant, “but compared to last year it’s almost 100 percent effective.”
Ahmad said he got the idea during a trip to New York some time back, when he encountered big, water-filled bag fly barriers over the doorways of a Chinese restaurant.
Doorways, for whatever reason, seem important to the fly-repellent principle. "..........
Vote Democrat! -- and save yourselves from right-wing religious nuts who are destroying the world. /sarcasm
It is an inescapable conclusion if not interrupted. I have much at stake. I am a signer of the petition. I am on 'the list', so to speak, and so many others, if it comes to that.
I come from a family of people who have been careful stewards of their land for 370 years, and are still farming part of that land grant.
Needless to say, the Federal (and other levels of) government have made it increasingly difficult for those members of my family still there to do so.
In the book, Dezinformatzia (search here for an inexpensive copy, if you don't have one), it was noted that some of the seed money for the budding environmental movement in the '60s and '70s came from KGB sources, with the express purpose of disrupting and damaging Western Industrial capability.
I have long thought the collapse of the USSR was a convenient rebranding of the system there, and Communism has never been so healthy as it has been after it was declared 'dead'.
The same jealous eyes hunger for paybacks and power.
Lysenko enough for you?
Speaking of history, I was thinking of the same thing when reading this article about global warming. The world has been heating up and cooling off for centuries. After all, if it wasn't for the earth heating up, wouldn't we still be in the ice age? And there was a period when the climate was so warm they were growing vineyards in England.
It is possible (but I doubt it) the world may be heating up. But this science is built upon bias, conjecture, and where the liberals have invested their money.
Obama's Science and Technology adviser, John P. Holdren, came out of the Sixties espousing this radical view.
Holdren's fingers are all over our economic decline. He advocates for the systematic dismantling of U.S. exceptionalism believing that the world will be better off with a weakened America.
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