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To: Libloather

Nice try NYT.

Where are the safeguards? How much should we risk, for what return? When should we pull the plug?

The fact is, many of the safeguards were in place at the DOE. They were over ridden by politics.

Hence, we need to limit how much we can afford to spend on this stuff. We already have a huge national lab structure in place, and grants to universities.

We can’t afford to be venture capitalists as well as underwriters of basic research.


9 posted on 09/24/2011 12:17:03 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: cicero2k; Libloather; All
Nice try NYT. Where are the safeguards? How much should we risk, for what return? When should we pull the plug? The fact is, many of the safeguards were in place at the DOE. They were over ridden by politics.

Another problem is that not only Joe Nocero doesn't critically examine the facts, he is also wrong in his main premise: "... federal loan programs — especially loans for innovative energy technologies — virtually require the government to take risks the private sector won’t take." Joe doesn't want to examine why private sector wouldn't invest in certain kinds of technology or companies, or why the company had to apply for the government loan / "investment and whether company was seeking but failed to find private investment first - there should have been a strong profit motive on both sides of the deal, while DOE is just playing with Other People's Money.

Private sector has invested plenty in all kinds of solar energy projects without direct federal money "investment" or "loans" - there is no shortage of solar energy research and development within and outside the U.S. This is not anywhere near a Manhattan Project of solar energy power.

BTW, when Bill Clinton killed the funding for Texas particle accelerator (Superconducting Super Collider, a truly worthwhile scientific project that private industry couldn't and has no need to fund) did NYT or Joe Nocero write an article about the need to invest in research that private sector would not fund?

Also, everybody in the solar industry knew or understood that Solyndra's method was way to expensive, not just relative to Chinese-sunsidized solar panels but against their American and foreign competitors as well.

From Obama $8 Billion Solar ‘Betamax' Undercut as China Backs Rival Technology - BL, by Ben Sills, 2011 September 20

From World's First Solar Building Exporting Power Shelved by Abu Dhabi's Masdar - BL, by Ayesha Daya, 2011 September 15

Not only these DOE "investments" or "loans" failed but these failures may drag down with them and set back the R&D funding from private sources which may find certain viable uses for solar and other technologies on the strength of the cost-benefit analysis.

It seems there has been plenty of money in the world in private sector devoted to developing solar energy power, and some fiscally responsible companies who plan to stay in business are walking away from guaranteed DOE loans. Solyndra had no real competitive plan to stay in business. NYT and Joe Nocero either pretend or really don't understand this and have no interest in government spending accountability (unless it's on military).

Solution? Simple. How about the same accountability which exists in the private sector? Congress can reduce DOE funding by $535M next fiscal year (and add other failed political "investments" to the "penalty box" amount) and see how much appetite they have for "investing" in other dubious projects of this kind in the future. Because in private sector this would be the money no longer available for investment.

44 posted on 09/24/2011 11:57:06 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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