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To: Bokababe

I only made an observation, nothing else. I don’t care if they vote Republican or not, that’s up to them. I just know that while, at that age, they think they know everything, they don’t.

My contention would be that many of them won’t vote Republican. They’re more likely to vote for the anti-defense liberal in the race and they’ll be quite smug as they do so. It’ll take life’s experiences to turn them around.


14 posted on 09/24/2011 12:09:43 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: upsdriver; Bokababe; qam1; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; ...
I just know that while, at that age, they think they know everything, they don’t.

This young one knows that his paycheck next week is getting ravaged to pay for Big Government™ in its many forms - Big Military™, subsidies to Big Business™, welfare for foreign dictators and hostile governments, Ponzi schemes such as Socialist Insecurity and Mediscare, etc.

Of course, according you, this young one - like his peers - is naught but a "stupid wet behind the ears twenty-something" - your words, not mine.

Oh, and by the way, not only is this young twenty-something sick of watching his peers get shipped off to foreign countries to die for corrupt politicians - he is sick of going to work each day to pay for the weapons used to kill them (instead of saving the money for a house, getting more education, getting married, and starting a family)!

So, I'll blame America first right here. I'll blame all the arrogant, treasonous, un-American idiots on both sides of the political aisle (many of whom are far older than me) who for decades ran amok around the world, playing one side against each other, thinking that they could play God without having to deal with the consequences of their choices - and who now believe that others (including their fellow citizens) should pay for their folly at home AND abroad.

It's long past time for the bullsh-t to stop, it's time for the United States to regain her stature on the world scene as a Republic (rather than as an Empire) and as the world's last bastion of freedom and liberty (rather than as a police state consumed by useless regulations and zombie bureaucrats) - hopefully before she falls apart and descends into the dustbin of history - and the only generation that has the power to put an end to the bullsh-t is the one that you are openly denigrating right here.

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42 posted on 09/24/2011 3:46:55 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: upsdriver
My contention would be that many of them won’t vote Republican.

That is the point of the article. If we just angrily shout that they are not welcome in the GOP, they will conclude that they are not welcome. Alternatively, we can engage them at the same level of rational and professional discourse that we expect of everyone else and win a lot of them over. The author isn't asking us to compromise our principles; simply not to drive away people who agree with us 90% of the time.

70 posted on 09/24/2011 7:09:05 PM PDT by lgwdnbdgr
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To: upsdriver
They’re more likely to vote for the anti-defense liberal in the race and they’ll be quite smug as they do so. It’ll take life’s experiences to turn them around.

Actually, from the ones I have talked with, no. They see readily the way liberalism has closed doors and reduced their options for the future. They see how hard it is to get a job when the employer can be hung out to dry for thousands of reasons, even though many of them would make a good employee. They hear us old farts talk about 'back when' and the things we did and have a fairly clear picture of not only how the world has changed, but who did what to make a mess of it.

Without the partisan blinders of being card-carrying Republicans, they see how one party opens the door to their loss of freedom, and the other party rushes in to loot their liberty.

Two prime examples are the EPA, the War on Drugs, both of which have virtually destroyed property rights, and the right to be secure from search and siezure of ones person, property, and effects.

They may be young (unseasoned by experience), but they are not dumb. They are still trying to make sense of it all, when it doesn't make sense--to them, or even, oftentimes, to us.

You want to turn them off, anyone, just call them names and don't have the decency to calmly explain how they are wrong--if you can.

I'm as anti-drug as it gets, I will not bother to summarize how my retirement has been squandered by the actions of others on drugs, but it has. But I don't think kicking down doors in the burbs is going to do diddley squat in the long run except get innocent people killed when the entry team gets the address wrong--because the d@mned border is still wide open and the stuff is coming in by the ton.

Open the door to wiretapping "terrorists" wholesale, and still not have the collective b@lls to profile at the airport, and all that happens is someone like Napolitano gets in and redefines terrorists as Bible-believing Christians who refuse to relinquish their Second Amendment Rights.

While tha d@mned border remains wide open.

We need to recall the person who spoke up in The Emperor's New Clothes was not a learned man, nor an irate woman, but a child.

Like it or not, Paul's supporters are energized, they may not have the historical perspective some of us do, but they are there, and they will be supporting someone.

A sufficiently Conservative Republican who walks the walk, not just talks the talk, has a good shot at taking these people into the fold, as long as we are not foolish enough to just alienate them out of hand.

91 posted on 09/24/2011 10:59:26 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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