Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

EPA to property owner: 'Your land is our land' ($40 million in fines pending)
WorldNetDaily ^ | Sept. 23, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 09/24/2011 10:12:35 AM PDT by WilliamIII

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-97 next last
To: PeterPrinciple
The EPA currently has over 18,000 employees.

And they are all incompetent with no REAL work to do so they are trying to look competent....................

Actually, the EPA has many good, competent scientists doing legitimate research. They aren't in charge, though. The EPA is run by appointed bureaucrats, who aren't scientists and understand nothing of ecology. That's where the problems come in. If the EPA were shifted back to its scientific mission, to identify and research actual environmental threats, it wouldn't be a problem.

21 posted on 09/24/2011 11:02:07 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

It sounds like the first thing that this Congress should do is pass a simple law that provides that all actions by the EPA, at every level, are subject to immediate state court or federal court judicial review, without posting a bond, or paying the EPA any kind of payment. That would help a lot and would be hard for the Dems and Obama to argue against. The pass a law saying the EPA pays the attorneys fees to the winning party if the court rules against the EPA.


22 posted on 09/24/2011 11:15:16 AM PDT by Avid Coug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Avid Coug

right on!


23 posted on 09/24/2011 11:16:06 AM PDT by WilliamIII
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII; golux; tubebender; Fractal Trader; Genesis defender; 4horses+amule; Carlucci; ...
EPA: An unelected, flunky bureaucracy populated with radical, no-growth, Marxist, environmental nut-jobs wielding rogue powers based in junk science. A cancer on the private sector. Ultimately, the EPA is not about the environment. It is about legislating from the Executive Branch in Soviet Agency style. It has the convenient unconstitutional feature of allowing the Obama Administration to pursue an extreme global warming agenda, to make energy prices necessarily sky-rocket, and gain sweeping regulatory control over the US economy without a politically difficult vote in congress. The EPA does no damn good and should be dismantled as the next order of business after ObamaCare is repealed.

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

24 posted on 09/24/2011 11:16:26 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

No person shall be.....deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


25 posted on 09/24/2011 11:18:10 AM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law

Yes, that’s what this is all about. You quote the constitution — but we could go back to Magna Carta and make the same fundamental point.


26 posted on 09/24/2011 11:21:24 AM PDT by WilliamIII
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
I read this and it is a case of EPA functionaries run amok. This would stop if these apparatchiks were singled out. Our society is fast approaching this. Some call them vigilantes, others call them Paladins....
27 posted on 09/24/2011 11:21:51 AM PDT by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 13Sisters76
Here's a thought for everyone. The federal government is not permitted to purchase state land except with the explicit permission of the state.

A simple legal expedient would be to identify any case where EPA is demanding someone do something that involves land, and create a protective temporary state ownership over that land.

End of story. EPA would need to go to the state, through Justice Department, to talk about a deal.

28 posted on 09/24/2011 11:22:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

The time fast approaches where the ‘point’ will be at the tip of a bayonet.


29 posted on 09/24/2011 11:25:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: 13Sisters76

I’ve been after my Senators for some time about the EPA. Unfortunately Corker and Alexander both seem to be tilting more to the left daily.


30 posted on 09/24/2011 11:26:59 AM PDT by WePledge (Ich werde fur immer ein Hollenhund werden. Semper Fidelis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
"Yes, that’s what this is all about. You quote the constitution — but we could go back to Magna Carta and make the same fundamental point."

To get a full understanding of the issue we need to ask why in the 21st century are we still allowing ourselves to be governed nationally under 19th century laws developed to address western water rights.

31 posted on 09/24/2011 11:30:11 AM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: exDemMom
I agree that there are still competent scientists buried in the EPA but they are obscure in tracking down. I question on how much influence they have given the mode of confrontation that has been the EPA’s main agenda for the past several decades.

Under President Jimmy Carter, the EPA began a transformation from technology solution driven to lawyer/bureaucrat driven. Essentially, engineers were phased out and replaced by lawyers.

32 posted on 09/24/2011 11:32:12 AM PDT by Hootowl99
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

America is not a free country anymore. Frog was boiled long ago.
Some people have to wait their turn to discover the reality. Won’t even unseal their own eyes, but wait for some government agent to land on them and do the job.
Others can figure it out by observation.
But almost nobody is fighting back. They line up for public schools, TSA checkpoints, photos and fingerprints, vehicle inspections, licenses, gun permits...etc., etc.
I swear they’d line up for cattlecar rides to showers.


33 posted on 09/24/2011 11:38:18 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jessduntno
There it is. No one to go after. The EPA puts us into serfdom.

Then they should proceed with their plans and if any EPA flunkey shows up on their property, remove them...with extreme prejudice. Get attack dogs, whatever. The EPA and the courts have blatantly declared war on the 'serfs'. If it is war they want, let it be war by G-d.

If I were backed into such a corner and the only other alternative were financial ruin, I would stand and fight. And I mean fight. The only other alternative is to simply bug out, walk away and head for Canada. And that is unacceptable.

34 posted on 09/24/2011 11:41:16 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Welcome to Moscow!


Our so called public servants are becoming little Hittlers
and they are beginning to out number us.

I swear i would rather vote for some one who believes in anarchy than to vote any more on what we have.


35 posted on 09/24/2011 11:50:34 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsr)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

The EPA is now like every other part of the Federal Government and it exists not to serve a particular mission,
but only to further it’s own existence.

It’s survival extinct combined with a desire to amass power too great to be overcome, even in the courts.

Pure evil.


36 posted on 09/24/2011 11:50:39 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 13Sisters76
If we cannot abolish the EPA- and we really DO need to- then the states should start flexing the 10th amendment and demanding that the EPA back off and that NO regulations put in place by them will be honored until the state legislators VOTE on it.

With this type of tyranny the People should also begin to get the idea that their 2nd Ammnedment rights may be need before long. The current "RULERS" know what they are doing, hence the Gunrunner fiasco.

How will I know if this hits the Attack Watch site?

37 posted on 09/24/2011 11:51:44 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Ever read Unintended Consequences? This stuff is in there.
38 posted on 09/24/2011 11:57:54 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: exDemMom

Actually, the EPA has many good, competent scientists doing legitimate research. They aren’t in charge, though. The EPA is run by appointed bureaucrats, who aren’t scientists and understand nothing of ecology. That’s where the problems come in. If the EPA were shifted back to its scientific mission, to identify and research actual environmental threats, it wouldn’t be a problem.


They are just like college professors,layers, and etc, they have one thing in mind and that is self fulfillment.


39 posted on 09/24/2011 12:01:04 PM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsr)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Rapscallion

No. Just tear it down!


That is right, just tear it down, if they start from scratch how long would would it be before we would have to tear it down again?


40 posted on 09/24/2011 12:05:35 PM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsr)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-97 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson