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Abbas submits Palestine statehood bid to UN [UPDATE: Netanyahu is speaking live]
Al Jazeera English ^ | 9.23.11 | staff

Posted on 09/23/2011 9:57:19 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded

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To: caww

I guess he’s playing to the one audience he knows has his back.

The rest of the world will write off talking about Iran and 911 and anything not immediately relevant as a misdirection to earn support domestically in the US.

But, seeing as the rest of the world is more or less against Netenyahu it seems like a good idea. Recall his amazing shaming of the UN with the lists of names from the holocaust and demanding how any of them could deny it?


21 posted on 09/23/2011 10:46:52 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Bibi is making a great speech....passionate, perfectly-reasoned, firm, moving....with a fantastic defense of his country.

Obama should be such a patriot.....alas....no comparison.

Leni

22 posted on 09/23/2011 10:51:30 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Too Bad Those of Us who Work for a Living Have to Support Those who Vote for a Living)
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To: MinuteGal

23 posted on 09/23/2011 10:54:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: caww

Some of Bee-bee’s statements....

The world around Israel have become more dangerous.....Gaza Lebannon, Jordon...saying Israel must make compromises.

Peoeple say to me constantly just make a swweping off er everything will work out....in 2002 we met all Palestinians demands..rejected. 2008 Abbass wouldn’t repond to the offers....we withdrew from Lebannon and Gaza...it only brought the storm closer and stronger...firing rockets into Israel.

Moderates were devoured by the radicals....we left Gaza hoping for Peace...we got out...we pulled kids out and moved loved ones from their graves, we gave the keys to Abbass....theory said it should all work out....the entire world applauded when we withdrew as a bold act of peace...we didn’t get peace we got war..10, 000 missles supplied by Iran....

What’s to prevent this from happening again in the West bank...??????

Would you bring danger to your citizens as this....we are not prepared to have another Gaza in the West BAnk....

There has not been an assurance of Israel’s safety....

How do you protect a country in that narrow space alone....(Man hatten used as an example.

Abbass said if Palestinian was a state it would never accept an arrangement of Israel security over air space.

America can be crossed in Jet airplanes in hours...in Israel a jet can cross Israel in three minutes.

These are not theetrical problems..these are real and life threatening and must be addressed before a Palestinian state.

Palestinians must first make Peace with Israel...then a state.


24 posted on 09/23/2011 10:58:54 AM PDT by caww
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To: dfwgator
Perfect...the patriot and the pimp.

Leni

25 posted on 09/23/2011 11:01:07 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Too Bad Those of Us who Work for a Living Have to Support Those who Vote for a Living)
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To: dfwgator

“A man and a punk”.....Benjamim N. vs Barak S.


26 posted on 09/23/2011 11:01:14 AM PDT by caww
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To: silentknight
Rice and two other US diplomats sat in silence and did not applaud.

This puzzles me. After the way the 0 admin has been treating Israel I would have thought that Rice would be applauding.

27 posted on 09/23/2011 11:08:14 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: MinuteGal

My heart goes out to Benjamin....

He said....”it’s not the setttlements...they are a result of the conflict...the core of the conflict has always been the Palestinians refusal to recognize Israel at ANY border.”

Israel is the Jewish state...Pres. Abbass make Peace with us.

Jerusalem...we are called Jews because we come from Judia....there’s a name of the Jewish official...Netenyahu...on that ring found at the western wall....4000 years ago ...there has been Jewish people in this land for centuries...”Next year In Jerusalem” “Next year in the promised land”...by those who were disoursed from the land...never gave up hope for a Jewish state.


28 posted on 09/23/2011 11:08:25 AM PDT by caww
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To: Eyes Unclouded
He threw out an invitation to Abbas to meet TODAY in the UN building to start negotiations for peace.

Leni

29 posted on 09/23/2011 11:11:42 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Too Bad Those of Us who Work for a Living Have to Support Those who Vote for a Living)
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To: Drill Thrawl

Benjamin invites Abbass to meet with him today...”we’re in the same building”...let’s listen to one another....”

I’ll tell you my needs and concerns you tell me yours...and with God we’ll find a way for peace”.

“I cannot make Peace alone..Pres. Abbass I extend my hand the hand of Israel in peace”


30 posted on 09/23/2011 11:12:56 AM PDT by caww
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To: Drill Thrawl

There was applause when Bee bee finished but nothing close to Abbass....it is apparent the Un is all about Abbass now.

This just is so discouraging for me today....I do not see this is going to end well when all is said and done. Palestine has zip money to sustain itself....it will be a welfare state at best.


31 posted on 09/23/2011 11:15:23 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

AbbassHole will never do it. The mooslime scum will never allow it.


32 posted on 09/23/2011 11:16:57 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: MinuteGal

Gurantee that Abbass will not meet with Bee-Bee....at the Un or any time soon. He’s going to enjoy his victory along with the Palestinians.


33 posted on 09/23/2011 11:17:25 AM PDT by caww
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To: Drill Thrawl

Nope the “Mooslime scum” won’t. He’s on a roll now and will not let Bee-Bee take his thunder from him. All in all it’s pretty disgusting to me that the UN, as usaul, feeds discord and does nothing to secure the ME...nor on the International Stage. It’s all political theater.

Watch the UN now float Abbasses purposal for years....stall it from coming together.


34 posted on 09/23/2011 11:21:08 AM PDT by caww
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Abbas said he was ready to return to the negotiations, saying he did not want to isolate or delegitimize Israel.

Nah, he just wants to destroy her.

35 posted on 09/23/2011 12:35:18 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Just to carify Abbass’s firm stand on Israel:

Quote by Abbass.....

“They talk to us about the Jewish state, but I respond to them with a final answer:.......” WE SHALL NOT RECOGNIZE A JEWISH STATE”.......... Abbas said in a meeting with some 200 senior representatives of the Palestinian community in the US, shortly before taking the podium and delivering a speech at the United Nations General Assembly.”

Thus proof once again what Muslims state to the world and what they state to one another is completely opposite.....IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER!


36 posted on 09/23/2011 12:47:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: Mr. Mojo
A very high ranking Muslim confesses he is out to destroy this country (video that will scare the hell out of you)
37 posted on 09/23/2011 12:56:07 PM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Eyes Unclouded; All

To anyone who wants to missed it live here are the full speeches in video. Abbas’s speech you might think you should read instead but no you should listen to the reaction he gets from the hall at the UN. Netanyahu’s speech will be quoted for decades and contains many powerful moments including my favorite bit about a millennium old ring bearing the name of a Jewish official named Netanyahu.

Abbas speech (~40 min):
http://video.nytimes.com/video/2011/09/23/world/middleeast/100000001070651/abbass-united-nations-address.html

Netanyahu sppech (~38 min):
http://video.nytimes.com/video/2011/09/23/world/middleeast/100000001070855/netanyahus-united-nations-address.html


39 posted on 09/23/2011 1:14:20 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Eyes Unclouded; F15Eagle

Jump to 30 min 50 seconds to hear it in his voice:

I often hear them accuse Israel of Judaizing Jerusalem. That’s like accusing America of Americanizing Washington, or the British of Anglicizing London. You know why we’re called “Jews”? Because we come from Judea.

In my office in Jerusalem, there’s a — there’s an ancient seal. It’s a signet ring of a Jewish official from the time of the Bible. The seal was found right next to the Western Wall, and it dates back 2,700 years, to the time of King Hezekiah. Now, there’s a name of the Jewish official inscribed on the ring in Hebrew. His name was Netanyahu. That’s my last name. My first name, Benjamin, dates back a thousand years earlier to Benjamin — Binyamin — the son of Jacob, who was also known as Israel. Jacob and his 12 sons roamed these same hills of Judea and Sumeria 4,000 years ago, and there’s been a continuous Jewish presence in the land ever since.

And for those Jews who were exiled from our land, they never stopped dreaming of coming back: Jews in Spain, on the eve of their expulsion; Jews in the Ukraine, fleeing the pogroms; Jews fighting the Warsaw Ghetto, as the Nazis were circling around it. They never stopped praying, they never stopped yearning. They whispered: Next year in Jerusalem. Next year in the promised land.

As the prime minister of Israel, I speak for a hundred generations of Jews who were dispersed throughout the lands, who suffered every evil under the Sun, but who never gave up hope of restoring their national life in the one and only Jewish state.


40 posted on 09/23/2011 1:20:18 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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